Pierce Expected to Become UFA

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-23-2005, 01:31 AM

Antonio Pierce is expected to become an unrestricted free agent after talks to re-sign him have ground to a halt.

JESUS! Can the offseason get any worse? Gardner, Pierce, Coles, Smoot, and maybe Samuels. This is friggin crazy. Those are some core Redskins.

SmootSmack · 02-23-2005, 01:32 AM

I heard the Rams might be interested in him. But anyway, is this really a big surprise? It would be foolish of Pierce not to test his value on the open market

Do you have a link by the way?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-23-2005, 01:33 AM

I posted it to the News forum.

SmootSmack · 02-23-2005, 01:33 AM

Yeah just saw it. Thanks

redwagonskins · 02-23-2005, 01:43 AM

Crap. This kind of turnover is what we were supposed to be avoiding.

offiss · 02-23-2005, 02:12 AM

We have to be carefull not over value player's because of a system, William's can make player's look much better than they really are compared to playing in a more conventional defense, the complete reversal that Edward's had when he was here, Pierce whom I have been a fan of since we signed him may not be as good as other's make him out to be, in other word's we shouldn't break the bank for guy's like Pierce and Smoot, reason? I believe we will find as good or better either through the draft or free agency at a much better price, if Pierce feel's he will be as productive in another system then by all mean's, but there could be a good chance he becomes someone else's Jeramiah Trotter.

Daseal · 02-23-2005, 02:26 AM

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

offiss · 02-23-2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

Absolutly! I like him a lot in fact I used to tell my Giant buddies I thought he was better than Champ, I still think he will stay, our offer was very fair I don't see other team's breaking the bank for him and we all know he want's to be here, he's just posturing right now.

JWsleep · 02-23-2005, 03:06 AM

Here's a theory: This is the result of Danny-boy overpaying over the last five years. Gibbs is in town, and the purse strings are being held a little tighter this time. No over-the-top payouts. And Gibbs was burned by the Brunell thing. The skins are playing it tight, so players and their agents are holding out.

So be it. I for one am tired of overpaying for players. What has it got us in terms of wins? Find the players that want to be here, and go with them. We have to lose our reputation as a player/agent ATM.

Daseal · 02-23-2005, 03:10 AM

I mean - this is posturing. Expect a lot of it. Many of these guys will probably stay unless they get an unreal offer from another club. Both Smoot and Pierce saw a lot of success in the scheme. I can also understand how lack of wins could really start to drag a player down emotionally and they want to rejuvinate themselves somewhere new.

CROOKEDSKINS · 02-23-2005, 03:12 AM

Hopefully Smoot and Pierce stay.Pierce had a great year he was just flat out playing ball and i think he would fit into anyones system.I dont blame him for wanting to see whats out there but i hope he stays home

ST21 · 02-23-2005, 05:47 AM

I agree, we need to stop over paying players...do you guys know if this was NE, that Bill would say....watch the door nob on your way out....let their ass go....by by

Gmanc711 · 02-23-2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

Agreed too. I belive it is much harder to make a corner look good in a system. Sure the system wont hurt it, but they still have to do whta all corners in the league do, and Smoot did a good job. Peirce did a phenominal job, but I do think alot had to do with the system, though. Dont get me wrong, I love Peirce, but I'm more worried about Smoot than Peirce.

GoSkins! · 02-23-2005, 08:58 AM

There are two positions on defense that Williams addressed last year. One was corner and the other was defensive end. He said that for his system to work, he needed to corners who could play man coverage. He also said that "when Danials is healthy, we are a different defense". That tells me what they feel like they need to be successful. I want Pierce to stay, but at least I did hear that Barrow was actually making progress in his recovery finally.

ChounsMan · 02-23-2005, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offiss

We have to be carefull not over value player's because of a system, William's can make player's look much better than they really are compared to playing in a more conventional defense, the complete reversal that Edward's had when he was here, Pierce whom I have been a fan of since we signed him may not be as good as other's make him out to be, in other word's we shouldn't break the bank for guy's like Pierce and Smoot, reason? I believe we will find as good or better either through the draft or free agency at a much better price, if Pierce feel's he will be as productive in another system then by all mean's, but there could be a good chance he becomes someone else's Jeramiah Trotter.

I completely agree, just look at Trotter when he played for the Skins. He was shooting the gaps & missing a lot. he goes back to the Eagles in a system that plays to his strength & looked great.

I would not over-pay for Pierce. There will be players out there with equal or better talent for the same $$$.

02-23-2005, 01:31 AM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Pierce Expected to Become UFA Antonio Pierce is expected to become an unrestricted free agent after talks to re-sign him have ground to a halt. JESUS! Can the offseason get any worse? Gardner, Pierce, Coles, Smoot, and maybe Samuels. This is friggin crazy. Those are some core Redskins.

02-23-2005, 01:32 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I heard the Rams might be interested in him. But anyway, is this really a big surprise? It would be foolish of Pierce not to test his value on the open market Do you have a link by the way? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-23-2005, 01:33 AM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I posted it to the News forum.

02-23-2005, 01:33 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA Yeah just saw it. Thanks __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-23-2005, 01:43 AM	#5
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA Crap. This kind of turnover is what we were supposed to be avoiding.

02-23-2005, 02:12 AM	#6
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA We have to be carefull not over value player's because of a system, William's can make player's look much better than they really are compared to playing in a more conventional defense, the complete reversal that Edward's had when he was here, Pierce whom I have been a fan of since we signed him may not be as good as other's make him out to be, in other word's we shouldn't break the bank for guy's like Pierce and Smoot, reason? I believe we will find as good or better either through the draft or free agency at a much better price, if Pierce feel's he will be as productive in another system then by all mean's, but there could be a good chance he becomes someone else's Jeramiah Trotter.

02-23-2005, 02:26 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

02-23-2005, 03:06 AM	#9
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,711	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA Here's a theory: This is the result of Danny-boy overpaying over the last five years. Gibbs is in town, and the purse strings are being held a little tighter this time. No over-the-top payouts. And Gibbs was burned by the Brunell thing. The skins are playing it tight, so players and their agents are holding out. So be it. I for one am tired of overpaying for players. What has it got us in terms of wins? Find the players that want to be here, and go with them. We have to lose our reputation as a player/agent ATM. __________________ Hail from Houston!

02-23-2005, 03:10 AM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I mean - this is posturing. Expect a lot of it. Many of these guys will probably stay unless they get an unreal offer from another club. Both Smoot and Pierce saw a lot of success in the scheme. I can also understand how lack of wins could really start to drag a player down emotionally and they want to rejuvinate themselves somewhere new.

02-23-2005, 03:12 AM	#11
CROOKEDSKINS Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: KEY WEST FL Age: 52 Posts: 93	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA Hopefully Smoot and Pierce stay.Pierce had a great year he was just flat out playing ball and i think he would fit into anyones system.I dont blame him for wanting to see whats out there but i hope he stays home

02-23-2005, 05:47 AM	#12
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I agree, we need to stop over paying players...do you guys know if this was NE, that Bill would say....watch the door nob on your way out....let their ass go....by by

02-23-2005, 08:58 AM	#14
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA There are two positions on defense that Williams addressed last year. One was corner and the other was defensive end. He said that for his system to work, he needed to corners who could play man coverage. He also said that "when Danials is healthy, we are a different defense". That tells me what they feel like they need to be successful. I want Pierce to stay, but at least I did hear that Barrow was actually making progress in his recovery finally. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

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