Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread

mooby · 12-04-2018, 07:16 AM

As we say our farewell to our 2018 Redskins Hopes & Dreams, this seems like an appropriate place to start.

We can make plenty of excuses for Sanchez, losing Jonathan Cooper, etc. on offense.

Defense has no excuses. We have talent there. The scheme sucks and our weaknesses are exposed every week. That's on Jay Gruden.

Having 1 backup for 2 guard positions - that's on Jay Gruden.

Lack of adjustments on D - that's on Manusky, and by extension Jay Gruden.

For the love of Christ teach our D they can only go for the strip if they gang tackle, when it's 1 on 1 I'm tired of seeing our guys go for the strip only to fail at the tackle.

Fire Bruce Allen. Fire Jay Gruden. Fire whoever the goddamn strength and conditioning coach is. Fire everybody.

FrenchSkin · 12-04-2018, 07:28 AM

This was a 1 point game entering the 4th... sure doesn't feel like it now.

Some random thoughts:

+

AP

Decent pass pro considering we lost both our back up gards during the game

Loved Foster stop early in the game and his coverage on Josh’s INT

Loved Brown stop on 4th and goal too

Doctson had some nice catches

Reed's effort to get the 1st down late in the 2nd was something we rarely see from him

-

Injuries Colt, Cooper... this is just too much to overcome for this team

Norman, a part from the pick he had a bad game, I don't get why they play him on pressed man coverage that much, he's a soft zone CB...

HHCD... Enough with this guy... such a disappointment: pathetic angle again on Sproles TD late in the 2nd, then waiting on Tate rather trying to tackle for a little gain in the 4th...

Where was the pass rush?

About the above, on the play just before Norman’s pick: 3rd down play and our DTs were Tim Settle and #99 Caleb Brantley... really? I get that lately we've been rotating our Dlinemen way more than early in the season, and Tim Settle is playing really well... But this is getting our of hand, and it doesn't seem to be working... On key situations don't you want your best 11 on the field?!

Not gonna hate on TW but I really didn't like that he missed the block on the trick play early in the 4th where Reed threw it back to CT on 3rd down. That was a 1st down.
If your best players don't make plays they're supposed to make you're not going to overcome adversity. At that point it was a 12 points game with 10:20 to go, this offense needed a spark and instead it's a 3 and out... Disappointing.

Heck... still hoping to see a W at FedEx on Sunday...

HTTR

EdmundDorf · 12-04-2018, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This was a 1 point game entering the 4th... sure doesn't feel like it now.

Some random thoughts:

+

AP

Decent pass pro considering we lost both our back up gards during the game

Loved Foster stop early in the game and his coverage on Josh’s INT

Loved Brown stop on 4th and goal too

Doctson had some nice catches

Reed's effort to get the 1st down late in the 2nd was something we rarely see from him

-

Injuries Colt, Cooper... this is just too much to overcome for this team

Norman, a part from the pick he had a bad game, I don't get why they play him on pressed man coverage that much, he's a soft zone CB...

HHCD... Enough with this guy... such a disappointment: pathetic angle again on Sproles TD late in the 2nd, then waiting on Tate rather trying to tackle for a little gain in the 4th...

Where was the pass rush?

About the above, on the play just before Norman’s pick: 3rd down play and our DTs were Tim Settle and #99 Caleb Brantley... really? I get that lately we've been rotating our Dlinemen way more than early in the season, and Tim Settle is playing really well... But this is getting our of hand, and it doesn't seem to be working... On key situations don't you want your best 11 on the field?!

Not gonna hate on TW but I really didn't like that he missed the block on the trick play early in the 4th where Reed threw it back to CT on 3rd down. That was a 1st down.
If your best players don't make plays they're supposed to make you're not going to overcome adversity. At that point it was a 12 points game with 10:20 to go, this offense needed a spark and instead it's a 3 and out... Disappointing.

Heck... still hoping to see a W at FedEx on Sunday...

HTTR

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FWIW: On the Jordan Reed to Chris Thompson pass play, Trent Williams was trying to make up for someone else's miss on the block. He nearly got it, too. Was not his man.

that being said, can you name any perennial pro bowler players on this roster right now? It is a kind of a catch 22 situation, would the roster look better with better coaches are are they getting the most out of a limited group. I dont really know.

mooby · 12-04-2018, 08:44 AM

John Keim is literally the only bright spot for me on ESPN right now. The dick riding last night was pretty fierce. Who knew Witten and Ertz were practically BFF's?

htownskinfan · 12-04-2018, 08:59 AM

I don’t know what to say,what a season.
But I think I’m starting to believe 5superbowls3wins theory that this team is cursed

Giantone · 12-04-2018, 08:59 AM

Everything will be rectified this week . The Giants are just the team the Skins need to feel better!

REDSKINS4ever · 12-04-2018, 09:05 AM

How do you go from 5-2 to 6-6 ?

CRedskinsRule · 12-04-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

How do you go from 5-2 to 6-6 ?

Lose 4 out of 5.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-04-2018, 09:11 AM

Defense has been rough. They have not been able to stop anybody. I know it was 14 points going into the 4th but the Eagles had absolutely zero problems moving the ball.

The offense is anemic and you can't blame Sanchez for that frankly the game plan for this team going into the season was TOP control with a running game and that just hasn't been the case for a while. Personnel is not built for it and Gruden doesn't call it.

CRedskinsRule · 12-04-2018, 09:13 AM

My only refrain is fire gruden.

This team has talent but when your coach doesnt know how to call plays, get the team ready for big games, manage games, have a strength and conditioning regimen that protects players, win down the stretch, be creative in 2nd halfs, score on the first drive of the second half (said yesterday its been 24 games since we scored on our first possession in the 2nd half ). Then The coach has to go.

Its not front office, its jay effing gruden and the staff including d coordinater that he picked.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-04-2018, 09:15 AM

You won't get any arguments from me

sandtrapjack · 12-04-2018, 09:21 AM

I'll just say this. If anyone was pinning hopes on Jonathan Cooper, you have some low aspirations.

Cooper never lived up to his first round selection. And he is on his third team in 3 years. That alone should tell you something.

skinsfaninok · 12-04-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I'll just say this. If anyone was pinning hopes on Jonathan Cooper, you have some low aspirations.

Cooper never lived up to his first round selection. And he is on his third team in 3 years. That alone should tell you something.

Nobody said Cooper is the savior at LG

Chico23231 · 12-04-2018, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Nobody said Cooper is the savior at LG

nobody ever said that, but he is solid depth.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-04-2018, 09:27 AM

And we were hoping he would last the season...

12-04-2018, 07:16 AM	#1
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,428	Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread As we say our farewell to our 2018 Redskins Hopes & Dreams, this seems like an appropriate place to start. We can make plenty of excuses for Sanchez, losing Jonathan Cooper, etc. on offense. Defense has no excuses. We have talent there. The scheme sucks and our weaknesses are exposed every week. That's on Jay Gruden. Having 1 backup for 2 guard positions - that's on Jay Gruden. Lack of adjustments on D - that's on Manusky, and by extension Jay Gruden. For the love of Christ teach our D they can only go for the strip if they gang tackle, when it's 1 on 1 I'm tired of seeing our guys go for the strip only to fail at the tackle. Fire Bruce Allen. Fire Jay Gruden. Fire whoever the goddamn strength and conditioning coach is. Fire everybody.

12-04-2018, 07:28 AM	#2
FrenchSkin Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 4,525	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread This was a 1 point game entering the 4th... sure doesn't feel like it now. Some random thoughts: + AP Decent pass pro considering we lost both our back up gards during the game Loved Foster stop early in the game and his coverage on Josh’s INT Loved Brown stop on 4th and goal too Doctson had some nice catches Reed's effort to get the 1st down late in the 2nd was something we rarely see from him - Injuries Colt, Cooper... this is just too much to overcome for this team Norman, a part from the pick he had a bad game, I don't get why they play him on pressed man coverage that much, he's a soft zone CB... HHCD... Enough with this guy... such a disappointment: pathetic angle again on Sproles TD late in the 2nd, then waiting on Tate rather trying to tackle for a little gain in the 4th... Where was the pass rush? About the above, on the play just before Norman’s pick: 3rd down play and our DTs were Tim Settle and #99 Caleb Brantley... really? I get that lately we've been rotating our Dlinemen way more than early in the season, and Tim Settle is playing really well... But this is getting our of hand, and it doesn't seem to be working... On key situations don't you want your best 11 on the field?! Not gonna hate on TW but I really didn't like that he missed the block on the trick play early in the 4th where Reed threw it back to CT on 3rd down. That was a 1st down. If your best players don't make plays they're supposed to make you're not going to overcome adversity. At that point it was a 12 points game with 10:20 to go, this offense needed a spark and instead it's a 3 and out... Disappointing. Heck... still hoping to see a W at FedEx on Sunday... HTTR __________________ Derz Ambassaderz in the Land of the Rising Sun. Oui Monsieur.

12-04-2018, 08:44 AM	#4
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,428	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread John Keim is literally the only bright spot for me on ESPN right now. The dick riding last night was pretty fierce. Who knew Witten and Ertz were practically BFF's?

12-04-2018, 08:59 AM	#5
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 62 Posts: 4,898	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread I don’t know what to say,what a season. But I think I’m starting to believe 5superbowls3wins theory that this team is cursed __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

12-04-2018, 08:59 AM	#6
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,904	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread Everything will be rectified this week . The Giants are just the team the Skins need to feel better! __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

12-04-2018, 09:05 AM	#7
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,023	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread How do you go from 5-2 to 6-6 ? __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

12-04-2018, 09:11 AM	#9
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,640	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread Defense has been rough. They have not been able to stop anybody. I know it was 14 points going into the 4th but the Eagles had absolutely zero problems moving the ball. The offense is anemic and you can't blame Sanchez for that frankly the game plan for this team going into the season was TOP control with a running game and that just hasn't been the case for a while. Personnel is not built for it and Gruden doesn't call it.

12-04-2018, 09:13 AM	#10
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,335	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread My only refrain is fire gruden. This team has talent but when your coach doesnt know how to call plays, get the team ready for big games, manage games, have a strength and conditioning regimen that protects players, win down the stretch, be creative in 2nd halfs, score on the first drive of the second half (said yesterday its been 24 games since we scored on our first possession in the 2nd half ). Then The coach has to go. Its not front office, its jay effing gruden and the staff including d coordinater that he picked.

12-04-2018, 09:15 AM	#11
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,640	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread You won't get any arguments from me

12-04-2018, 09:21 AM	#12
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,994	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread I'll just say this. If anyone was pinning hopes on Jonathan Cooper, you have some low aspirations. Cooper never lived up to his first round selection. And he is on his third team in 3 years. That alone should tell you something.

12-04-2018, 09:27 AM	#15
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,640	Re: Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread And we were hoping he would last the season...

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