Trayvon Martin Case

DynamiteRave · 03-21-2012, 08:41 PM

By now everyone should have heard about it. Figured I'd put it in the Debating the Enemy thread in case there are dissenting viewpoints about the case and how it is/should be handled.

Trayvon Martin Case: Does Florida Law Protect Shooter? - Yahoo! News

RedskinRat · 03-21-2012, 11:06 PM

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

DynamiteRave · 03-21-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

I feel like that too... Somewhat. It's obvious that the shooter was a nut to begin with. But I think random black kid in the neighborhood had to of played at least a small role, but I'm not sure of the racial make up of Sanford. But I feel like if it was any seedy looking kid of any race, this still may have still been the final outcome.

That Guy · 03-22-2012, 08:13 AM

I think it's a bad law.

mlmdub130 · 03-22-2012, 10:46 AM

Terrible law, crazy this guy has not been arrested as of yet. The dispatcher he was on the phone with told him not to confront the kid. He confronted him and scuffled with him and killed him. He needs to be in jail and hopefully will be shortly. If he ends up not getting any jail time I will lose the last thread of faith I have in our court systems.

mooby · 03-22-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

I think it's a bad law.

I agree. I think it's like the Floridians say, it's shoot first ask questions later. I think the neighborhood watch guy deserves to be punished for this, and I don't want to start a racial conversation or anything but it sounds like this guy has a real problem with stereotyping minorities. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, I really hope the FBI/DOJ come down hard on him since the local authorities apparently won't.

RedskinRat · 03-22-2012, 12:49 PM

"The major problem with stand your ground is that it exists in tandem with state laws that allow so many loaded guns to be carried around in public," says Daniel Vice, senior attorney at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington.

And yet the streets are NOT running with blood and Florida hasn't turned into the Wild West.

There's no way this guy should have shot the kid, Neighborhood Watch should be just that, 'WATCH' then report not try to be an enforcer.

Anyone remember a similar case with the old dude shooting two burglars after the dispatcher said don't do anything?

NC_Skins · 03-22-2012, 02:24 PM

This is a no brainer. The guy was told not to pursue and he did, and ended up killing a person (17 year old kid) with no weapon. There is nothing that Zimmerman can claim that would justify his using lethal force. No knife, no gun, no bat, no nothing. Also, the fact he pursued and instigated the fight/scuffle is all the more reason to arrest, detain and charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder or Voluntary Manslaughter.

Inexcusable to say the least.

los panda · 03-22-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

after listening to zimmerman's 911 call, i feel that martin's race played a role.

firstdown · 03-22-2012, 04:00 PM

You mean him calling the guy a F&^ing Cone brings race into the picture.LOL I think Zimmerman caused the problem but I don't think the other guy is the innocent little boy thay mak him out to be.

los panda · 03-22-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

You mean him calling the guy a F&^ing Cone brings race into the picture.LOL I think Zimmerman caused the problem but I don't think the other guy is the innocent little boy thay mak him out to be.

no, not even that, i'm still not sure i can hear him say that. i meant his tone, the way he describes martin, and other comments. as far as how innocent they make martin out to be, i have no idea, probably innocent enough not to be killed

firstdown · 03-22-2012, 04:12 PM

I agree its not 100% clear that's what he said but it goes with the tone he had with 911 and I cannot think of any other word to replace coon. I'm sure the right person can clean up the tape to hear what he did say.

mlmpetert · 03-22-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I agree its not 100% clear that's what he said but it goes with the tone he had with 911 and I cannot think of any other word to replace coon. I'm sure the right person can clean up the tape to hear what he did say.

What about Cone?

saden1 · 03-23-2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

Race has everything to do with this and if you don't think so you're a fcking moron.

If I'm Trayvon's father I'm playing the lead role in Law Abiding Citizen.

saden1 · 03-23-2012, 02:51 AM

This kid did nothing wrong and apparently you assholes think it's OK to shoot kids because they look suspicious or wear a hoddie and stand up to grown men stalking them.

Yo, close this thread before these morons say more stupid shit that makes no sense.

03-21-2012, 08:41 PM	#1
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Trayvon Martin Case By now everyone should have heard about it. Figured I'd put it in the Debating the Enemy thread in case there are dissenting viewpoints about the case and how it is/should be handled. Trayvon Martin Case: Does Florida Law Protect Shooter? - Yahoo! News __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

03-21-2012, 11:06 PM	#2
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager. Drop the race angle.

03-22-2012, 08:13 AM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 41 Posts: 17,553	Re: Trayvon Martin Case I think it's a bad law.

03-22-2012, 10:46 AM	#5
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,238	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Terrible law, crazy this guy has not been arrested as of yet. The dispatcher he was on the phone with told him not to confront the kid. He confronted him and scuffled with him and killed him. He needs to be in jail and hopefully will be shortly. If he ends up not getting any jail time I will lose the last thread of faith I have in our court systems. __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

03-22-2012, 12:49 PM	#7
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Trayvon Martin Case "The major problem with stand your ground is that it exists in tandem with state laws that allow so many loaded guns to be carried around in public," says Daniel Vice, senior attorney at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington. And yet the streets are NOT running with blood and Florida hasn't turned into the Wild West. There's no way this guy should have shot the kid, Neighborhood Watch should be just that, 'WATCH' then report not try to be an enforcer. Anyone remember a similar case with the old dude shooting two burglars after the dispatcher said don't do anything?

03-22-2012, 02:24 PM	#8
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,382	Re: Trayvon Martin Case This is a no brainer. The guy was told not to pursue and he did, and ended up killing a person (17 year old kid) with no weapon. There is nothing that Zimmerman can claim that would justify his using lethal force. No knife, no gun, no bat, no nothing. Also, the fact he pursued and instigated the fight/scuffle is all the more reason to arrest, detain and charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder or Voluntary Manslaughter. Inexcusable to say the least. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

03-22-2012, 04:00 PM	#10
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Trayvon Martin Case You mean him calling the guy a F&^ing Cone brings race into the picture.LOL I think Zimmerman caused the problem but I don't think the other guy is the innocent little boy thay mak him out to be.

03-22-2012, 04:12 PM	#12
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Trayvon Martin Case I agree its not 100% clear that's what he said but it goes with the tone he had with 911 and I cannot think of any other word to replace coon. I'm sure the right person can clean up the tape to hear what he did say.

03-23-2012, 02:51 AM	#15
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Trayvon Martin Case This kid did nothing wrong and apparently you assholes think it's OK to shoot kids because they look suspicious or wear a hoddie and stand up to grown men stalking them. Yo, close this thread before these morons say more stupid shit that makes no sense. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

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