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Old 11-02-2018, 11:30 AM   #1426
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LOL, yeah they might not win as much but I think there will be enough of a turn over to get in his way.
I don't know if anyone else feels like making predictions, but here is mine.

The Republicans have a net gain in the Senate of 4 seats, giving them 55 total
The Democrats have a net gain of 28 seats in the House, giving 221 total.

This is my prediction, but also my preferred outcome. I firmly believe that a win of the house will give the democratic base a steam release valve. They will vote to impeach trump, that will die in the Senate. The house will hold hearings ad nauseam, and Trump will decry every one of them.

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Trump will work with the House and Senate, and they will find compromise positions that won't get destroyed by the far right side of the aisle, and the far left side will be getting it's raw meat in the form of the impeachment hearings. My basis for this thought is that during the Kavanaugh hearings, even as the hard left/right bases were frothing at the mouth, several budget bills, and other bills passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. When one side has all the branches, the other side is forced into unwieldy opposition, and that is what we have seen several times in the past.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:46 PM   #1427
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I don't know if anyone else feels like making predictions, but here is mine.

The Republicans have a net gain in the Senate of 4 seats, giving them 55 total
The Democrats have a net gain of 28 seats in the House, giving 221 total.

This is my prediction, but also my preferred outcome. I firmly believe that a win of the house will give the democratic base a steam release valve. They will vote to impeach trump, that will die in the Senate. The house will hold hearings ad nauseam, and Trump will decry every one of them.

BUT

Trump will work with the House and Senate, and they will find compromise positions that won't get destroyed by the far right side of the aisle, and the far left side will be getting it's raw meat in the form of the impeachment hearings. My basis for this thought is that during the Kavanaugh hearings, even as the hard left/right bases were frothing at the mouth, several budget bills, and other bills passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. When one side has all the branches, the other side is forced into unwieldy opposition, and that is what we have seen several times in the past.
I think right on ,on the Senate but I think you giving to much to the Dems in Congress.I think at best they gain 12-15 seats . The trump terror tour is working on mid America.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:32 PM   #1428
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I think right on ,on the Senate but I think you giving to much to the Dems in Congress.I think at best they gain 12-15 seats . The trump terror tour is working on mid America.
a 12 - 15 seat gain for the dems would be the worst of both worlds.

the house would virtually die in committees and in fighting. Likely the right wing of the Republicans would take leadership, and the moderates would side with the dems to block everything.

Normally I am ok with stalemated government, but I believe - like the daca for the wall proposal - Trump would find a way to negotiate with the house under pelosi, or any other democrat, and the republican senate would make sure - from my perspective - that the bills don't get too skewed towards the socialist wing of the democratic party.
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Old 11-05-2018, 07:15 AM   #1429
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You have to admit this was good...............


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZZq...ature=youtu.be
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:29 AM   #1430
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I don't know if anyone else feels like making predictions, but here is mine.

The Republicans have a net gain in the Senate of 4 seats, giving them 55 total
The Democrats have a net gain of 28 seats in the House, giving 221 total.
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I was pretty close. We won't know what the final counts are for a while, but it looks +4 and +28 is about right.

The House may gain a few more, but 55 seems dead on for the Senate. The other difference on the 55 is that there is no Flake, Corker, or McCain. There is only 1 maybe 2 non-Trump Republican senators. That means there won't be a thumbs down moment for bills the republicans agree to with the Democratic house. That's why I am really hopeful we will finally see meaningful, passable healthcare reform that is bipartisan.

I hope.
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Old 11-15-2018, 07:38 AM   #1431
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The end is near and they are closing in.............


https://view.yahoo.com/show/deadline...ent-right-wing
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:18 AM   #1432
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I know some of you served in the Military ,this should piss you off!


https://www.vox.com/2018/11/18/18101...cting-veterans


https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...on/2052615002/


President Donald Trump took the opportunity on Sunday to insult the Navy SEAL commander who led the deadly assault on Osama bin Laden, along with the likely chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and, sadly, the U.S. Constitution.

During a television interview Trump attacked retired Adm. William H. McRaven, a man currently battling cancer, because McRaven has been critical of some of the things Trump has said, like calling journalists “the enemy of the people.”

Also, after Trump revoked the security clearance of former CIA director John Brennan, McRaven wrote an essay calling him “one of the finest public servants” he’d ever known and telling Trump that he “would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.”
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:23 AM   #1433
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?

vox...lolol.
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:27 AM   #1434
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:28 AM   #1435
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vox...lolol.
So trump didn't say this ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5D6z0VSpEc






Chico you bias is showing.
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Old 11-19-2018, 03:13 PM   #1436
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I know some of you served in the Military ,this should piss you off!


https://www.vox.com/2018/11/18/18101...cting-veterans


https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...on/2052615002/


President Donald Trump took the opportunity on Sunday to insult the Navy SEAL commander who led the deadly assault on Osama bin Laden, along with the likely chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and, sadly, the U.S. Constitution.

During a television interview Trump attacked retired Adm. William H. McRaven, a man currently battling cancer, because McRaven has been critical of some of the things Trump has said, like calling journalists “the enemy of the people.”

Also, after Trump revoked the security clearance of former CIA director John Brennan, McRaven wrote an essay calling him “one of the finest public servants” he’d ever known and telling Trump that he “would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.”
The people in the military I know love Trump and when I spent the day at the Pentagon this past summer no one seems to have like the previous administration.
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:23 PM   #1437
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The people in the military I know love Trump and when I spent the day at the Pentagon this past summer no one seems to have like the previous administration.

Sorry my experience is different, the Military can't stand trump. Why? Because he isn't worth the headache or aggravation opposing him brings .They go around him and many ,many respected Obama.

McRaven spoke out ,look what happen?
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:42 PM   #1438
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?

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I know some of you served in the Military ,this should piss you off!





https://www.vox.com/2018/11/18/18101...cting-veterans





https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...on/2052615002/





President Donald Trump took the opportunity on Sunday to insult the Navy SEAL commander who led the deadly assault on Osama bin Laden, along with the likely chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and, sadly, the U.S. Constitution.



During a television interview Trump attacked retired Adm. William H. McRaven, a man currently battling cancer, because McRaven has been critical of some of the things Trump has said, like calling journalists “the enemy of the people.”



Also, after Trump revoked the security clearance of former CIA director John Brennan, McRaven wrote an essay calling him “one of the finest public servants” he’d ever known and telling Trump that he “would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.”

Trump could literally piss on every member of the military and his supporters wouldn’t care, it’s not his first attack on them and certainly won’t be the last. The guy is such a bag of dicks
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Old 11-20-2018, 05:07 PM   #1439
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oh hey remember Hillary's little email problem?

Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of emails about government business last year
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:01 PM   #1440
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lock her up , lock her up !!!!!!!!!!!:d
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