Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

[skinsfaninok]

It looks like we will have the 16th pick

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think I'm with you on keeping Thomas, but just wanted to say that you and I aren't looking at the same contract. His cap number in 2023 is $8.8M. We'd save $5.3M if we parted ways.

I'd still keep him - I think he'll be useful again as he gets healthier. He was particularly terrible as a blocker this year but I think that gets better as he gets his legs under him.

I assumed instead of checking the actual contract, it's a little bit higher than I thought it would be. Nonetheless, we should keep him.

[mooby]

https://twitter.com/NBCSCommanders/s...08565658296323

Daron is talking like a guy who's ready to get paid, and couldn't care less who pays him.

I'd make him an offer but we need to establish a line we won't go over, and if he wants more he walks. Or we could explore doing a sign-and-trade? Is that a thing in the NFL?

Gotta be honest, his play this year finally reflected his draft position but the way he talks makes me wonder if he will continue to play at that level once he gets paid. I'm getting Haynesworth vibes from him.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

https://twitter.com/NBCSCommanders/s...08565658296323

Daron is talking like a guy who's ready to get paid, and couldn't care less who pays him.

I'd make him an offer but we need to establish a line we won't go over, and if he wants more he walks. Or we could explore doing a sign-and-trade? Is that a thing in the NFL?

Gotta be honest, his play this year finally reflected his draft position but the way he talks makes me wonder if he will continue to play at that level once he gets paid. I'm getting Haynesworth vibes from him.

I wouldn't expect him to talk otherwise, and definitely his agent wouldn't want him to say otherwise.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I will not be surprised based on his season that someone will over pay for him. I hope the FO and him can come to reasonable terms but not going to bank on it.

[skinsfaninok]

I’d be surprised if Payne comes back and honestly if he wants $18M or so a year that’s tough to do when you need a line so damn bad


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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I’d be surprised if Payne comes back and honestly if he wants $18M or so a year that’s tough to do when you need a line so damn bad


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I would pay him and with my first pick get an OL, second OL. If you are not paying for FA OL Payne can get paid. Seattle was able to draft 2 starting Tackles, it can be done. There should be plenty of $$ for Payne, Curl and possibly Holcomb. I would cut McCain, Thomas, trade Samuel, restructure Roullier and get more cap space that way.

[mooby]

https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/s...42259433070595

Good summary of the inaugural Commanders season.

[skinsfan69]

I just don't feel like you pay two guys that much money at DT. They just played their best game of the year w/out Allen. They can tag Payne and keep him for one more year. I know that pisses off the player but it is what it is.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I will not be surprised based on his season that someone will over pay for him. I hope the FO and him can come to reasonable terms but not going to bank on it.

I would submit a reasonable contract and highlight the fact he was great this year and compare it to full body of work. I would prepare to tag him and I would call teams to let them know they can negotiate a deal. He gets a better one, I wouldn’t be stingy with compensation… late 2nd round maybe a switch to move up with another…maybe a couple 3rds in in consecutive years.

But I will say if we lose Payne then we go to Montez and try to work something out early.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just don't feel like you pay two guys that much money at DT. They just played their best game of the year w/out Allen. They can tag Payne and keep him for one more year. I know that pisses off the player but it is what it is.

I thought Ridgeway and other DT flashed well. Also we got the other 2nd round DT pick coming next year. I think we much more prepared to lose Payne than Montez who really play well after a slow first third of the year

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought Ridgeway and other DT flashed well. Also we got the other 2nd round DT pick coming next year. I think we much more prepared to lose Payne than Montez who really play well after a slow first third of the year

Ridgeway had his best game and was responsible for Dallas lack of a running game, he ate people up. He suffered a torn pectoral muscle and sat the 2nd half. Love the Vanilla Gorilla!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it will be tough for Rivera to find a new OC because almost everyone knows Rivera will be on a hot seat next year.

Exactly how I feel about it, plus Turner was extended. The only guy coming here to run the offense will be another Ron retread from Carolina or Zampese. I kinda lean that Scott comes back.

I don't like this offense or this version of it. I don't like all of the shotgun. I don't like the lack of audibles. Not enough quick slants. I don't like all the gimmick stuff to Samuel. You should be able to get Samuel the ball out of the slot. They did it the first game of the year. What happened? I don't like the weak play action plays. They don't fool anyone.

I know it's a dead position but I love having a true fullback on the roster. I don't like all this running out of shotgun. Not a fan.

[SFREDSKIN]

We must be the only team that lets 1st round picks walk, we had many leave to get a 3rd rounder, this pattern needs to stop. One interesting tidbit, since 1968-present there have been 25 years were Washington didn't have a 1st round pick. George Allen and Beathard traded a lot of them.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just don't feel like you pay two guys that much money at DT. They just played their best game of the year w/out Allen. They can tag Payne and keep him for one more year. I know that pisses off the player but it is what it is.

I agree. I hope we tag him and trade him, hopefully sometime around the draft for something better than a 3rd rounder.