The Sam Howell Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

While the season has been a disaster I don't think it's fair to say the coaches have quit. EB especially wants to put good tape out there with the offense for whatever his next opportunity is.

Quit was a poor choice of words. I should have said failed.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Oh I'm not closing the book on his career as a starter, he flashed potential earlier in the year. Just saying he appears to have regressed. His accuracy and vision is off and he appears to be playing timid.

The pressure he has faced would make Andre the Giant timid.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I will confess I am not as high on Sam as I was at the beginning of the season but in the end my opinion is useless. I think next year we will have the first in over 25 years a GM to HC formula that the rest of the league has used. I trust they will have the film they need on Sam to make a decision that will set us on the right path.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just don't see how he is better than Penix.

I'm not a fan of Penix at all . . . i see a big BUST with him.

[davy]

If I'm the new GM and I'm confident of turning this franchise around quickly with much better coaching, better use of players already here, some sensible FA pickups and a good draft. I'm asking myself, "Am I going to be picking this high again in the near future?".

If the answer to that is no, it becomes very, very difficult not to take one of the top 2/3 QBs.

[MTK]

I think Sam is definitely back next season, but as the starter? Nah. We'll draft someone or sign someone.

If someone told you back in August Sam was going to lead the league in INTs, pick sixes, and sacks, there's no way you'd say yeah, sign me up for some more of that.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The pressure he has faced would make Andre the Giant timid.

He's faced the same pressure all year - he was handling it better until the last month or so.

I think the decision would be much tougher if he hadn't played so terribly the last 2-3 weeks. He needs to make some plays these last 3 weeks otherwise new staff is going to move on.

[Meks]

I personally also think the scheme and playcalling is hot trash. All it does is attribute to Sam looking and playing worse.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think Sam is definitely back next season, but as the starter? Nah. We'll draft someone or sign someone.

If someone told you back in August Sam was going to lead the league in INTs, pick sixes, and sacks, there's no way you'd say yeah, sign me up for some more of that.

I didn’t realize he led the league in pick 6s… damn.

Yeah that’s brutal


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[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I didn’t realize he led the league in pick 6s… damn.

Yeah that’s brutal


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He's thrown 4, Mac Jones and Bryce Young have thrown 3, bunch of other guys have thrown 2.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by mooby

The numbers back up the eye test, Sam has regressed the last month or so. We'll see what happens after the season but if he finishes these last 3 games the same way it's almost guaranteed a new staff will go with a new qb.

He regressed or teams adjusted?
Howell doesn't get the ball downfield with any accuracy. Sure he has a good arm but can he see the whole field?
His 2 longest receptions are to RBs on broken plays.
500+ pass attempts, Howell did not complete a 40+ yard reception to Terry or Jahan.

If I'm game planning for Howell, Damn near all passes are under 20 yards. I'm going to make him beat me over the top.
That's why Brissett made the long pass look easy. They didn't game plan for anything deep and left the corner without help.

Sam needs to go out swinging against the Jets. Considering how well guys like Flacco and Mayfield are playing, Sam Howell is looking like a practice squad player right now. He needs to put up big plays to stay relevant. 5th round picks don't get to suck for this long.

[MTK]

I thought the long ball was supposed to be his strength? He seems to miss everyone deep.

[rocnrik]

Sam knows he has the last three games to shine .. if he doesn't then it's his loss because the new regime will pick a QB .. To me Sam looks like he is "shell shocked "and is in panic mode .. I guess all the sacks and picks can take its toll .. I don't see him as the answer unless he shows a lot in the next 3 weeks ..

[Chief X_Phackter]

I don't know if I'm buying the whole shell shocked thing. He gets sacked a lot, that's who he is. That's who he has been for years.

[skinsfan69]

If Sam was a first round rookie I wonder how the conversation would be going? We would not be ready to give up on him. Yet because Sam is short by NFL standards, and he's a 5th rounder, everyone has mostly mailed it in.