WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Well, I'd be in favor of extending Payne now, but to be fair to Chief's point, Payne only has 1 year left.

Does that include the 5th year option we have? I think with that he has 2 left. And I'm assuming it's a lock we take the option.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Does that include the 5th year option we have? I think with that he has 2 left. And I'm assuming it's a lock we take the option.

Yeah I edited my previous comment, I'd guess there's a 5th year option but can't find mention of it anywhere. OTC and spotrac usually reference those...

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Yeah I edited my previous comment, I'd guess there's a 5th year option but can't find mention of it anywhere. OTC and spotrac usually reference those...

Hmm. Not sure as I don't use those sites. Maybe they don't include it until the option is actually officially exercised?

That's the only thing I can think of. All 1st round picks are 4 years with a 5th year team option.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't want to trade good players that have 2+ years on their contract. Even if we can't re-sign them, we still get 2 more years of production that most likely can't be equally re-produced elsewhere.

I don't either.

[Defensewins]

Fuck no to Mariota

[Chief X_Phackter]

https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-mari...203555002.html

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-mari...203555002.html

Salary doubles if we trade for him, damn, that's a huge deal. Mariota at 10 million I'd be ok with, 20 million would make it a big no for me. Would definitely need a new contract.

[CRedskinsRule]

I wonder what is Alex Smith waiting on. Seems like if he was retiring he could have announced that. ( As a side note, the aame could be said for Drew Brees)

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Number44

Looks like it is $10.625M.

https://overthecap.com/player/marcus-mariota/3850/

Add an extra 10M for starting bonus Lombardi reported

[KI Skins Fan]

Depending on the compensation to the Raiders, I'm fine with trading for Mariota. He is a fit for our offense and he has a ton of physical talent. It is quite possible that he has matured and improved as an NFL QB. I trust our player personnel staff to determine if he is now ready to lead an NFL team.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I can see that aspect too. My thing is, why not just draft Mac Jones at 19 or what if Lance falls to like 16 or 17? Trade up a few spots to get him. We already know what Mariota is and his ceiling. He’s a good QB when his team is running the ball well but if he’s asked to make throws in crunch time, he hasn’t been able to do that. To me I’d rather just roll with Heineke

Or just not trade up at all.
Mariota was drafted high, but if you had to regrade him today, he's not even a 2nd round pick. Why overpay for Mariota when you can draft a player nearly as good and have him 4 years on cheap rookie deal.
I'm fine with Hein at QB as well, and take patient approach.
We have too many holes and too little depth to be trading up and reaching for QBs. Half of draft picks bust with even a good GM. This doesn't mean you get scared and don't draft, it means you amass lots of picks and get more chances at the roulette wheel. That doesn't happen trading up. Probably take a 3rd round pick to move up 2 spots in 1st round. Minimum. Why not just draft a player with that pick.
All this talk of trading for people or signing retread FAs.
Draft a QB, without trading up.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Depending on the compensation to the Raiders, I'm fine with trading for Mariota. He is a fit for our offense and he has a ton of physical talent. It is quite possible that he has matured and improved as an NFL QB. I trust our player personnel staff to determine if he is now ready to lead an NFL team.

If he had matured as a QB, he wouldn't be on the bench behind a very above average, but far from great, QB in Carr. Mariota looks great on paper but doesn't have the moxy when the pressure is on and the chips are down.

Enough of the retreads.
Draft a QB. Without trading up.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I wonder what is Alex Smith waiting on. Seems like if he was retiring he could have announced that. ( As a side note, the aame could be said for Drew Brees)

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God forbid the guy goes on vacation for a month and just chills before dealing with all that. LOL. If he doesn't retire we have to cut him. Money saved is almost cost of Scherff one year.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not sure I would call him a failure. Maybe he has yet to live up to the high expectations, being the #2 overall selection. He's had success though. He has been a probowler and he has won a playoff game. Like Skinzwin said, maybe he just needs to be in a system that more suits his style.

When you are drafted #2 overall and the team that drafted you moves on and you are a backup on a team without a top-flight franchise QB, that is failure.

If he were a FA, take a flier. But he isn't.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Raiders: Marcus Mariota trade packages for the Washington Football Team
https://justblogbaby.com/2021/02/13/...ade-wft/amp/2/