When is Enough ,Enough?

Chico23231 · 07-31-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, spin it,spin it!

You know with me no spin. I gotta a idea for the name of my political talk show....the no spin zone...I think I’m on to something!

CRedskinsRule · 07-31-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

No, you mean what America wants.

No, I meant what I said. Liberal progressives want a style of government paid healthcare that is extremely socialistic.

Americans are evenly split on the matter so you can't rightly claim it's what America wants, without acknowledging your own "republican" bias in that statement.

from Gallup poll

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Which of the following approaches for providing healthcare in the United States would you prefer -- [ROTATED: a government-run healthcare system (or) a system based mostly on private health insurance]?
Government-run system(GRS)
System based on private insurance(PI)
No opinion (NO)

% ...................... GRS .... PI.... NO
2017 Nov 2-8........47.....48.....5
2016 Nov 9-13......43.....53.....4
2015 Nov 4-8.......41.....55.....4
2014 Nov 6-9.......35.....61.....4
2013 Nov 7-10.....34.....61.....5
2012 Nov 15-18...36.....57.....6
2011 Nov 3-6.......39.....56.....6
2010 Nov 4-7.......34.....61.....5

Up until 2014, America was clearly in the Private insurance side, but there has been an intense campaign around it, and bridged the gap to make it a fairly equal distribution.

Giantone · 07-31-2018, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

You know with me no spin. I gotta a idea for the name of my political talk show....the no spin zone...I think I’m on to something!

You could always try the "no sin zone" but that would leave you with not being able to talk about trump.

Giantone · 07-31-2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No, I meant what I said. Liberal progressives want a style of government paid healthcare that is extremely socialistic.

Americans are evenly split on the matter so you can't rightly claim it's what America wants, without acknowledging your own "republican" bias in that statement.

from Gallup poll

Up until 2014, America was clearly in the Private insurance side, but there has been an intense campaign around it, and bridged the gap to make it a fairly equal distribution.

I think your numbers are off.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...care-poll-says

Support for single-payer health insurance grows in U.S. | Pew Research Center

http://thehill.com/opinion/healthcar...al-health-care

CRedskinsRule · 07-31-2018, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

I think your numbers are off.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...care-poll-says

Support for single-payer health insurance grows in U.S. | Pew Research Center

http://thehill.com/opinion/healthcar...al-health-care

From your articles

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Overall, 33% of the public now favors such a “single payer” approach

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Among Democrats, only 22 percent actually want the ACA kept just as it is

Seems like most americans agree that the law as is sucks. What it should be replaced with is split, like i said before

Giantone · 07-31-2018, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

From your articles

Seems like most americans agree that the law as is sucks. What it should be replaced with is split, like i said before

post #1060, keep spinning and cherry picking.

Giantone · 07-31-2018, 10:09 PM

I wonder who this will help???

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/1d4ab23...-a-%24100.html

According to independent analyses, Trump's plan would mainly benefit wealthy Americans, who make up a larger portion of asset sales. The Penn-Wharton Budget Model estimated that the change would cut taxes by $102 billion over 10 years, with 97.5% of the benefit from capital-gains inflation indexing going to the top 10% of income earners. In fact, according to its estimate, 63% of the benefit would go to just the top 0.1% of income earners.

CRedskinsRule · 07-31-2018, 11:19 PM

In post 1060 you say its not perfect, i agree. You want to fix it one way, i want to get rid of it and go with a more private insurance solution. We have just shown in a microcosm of my post that most if not all americans think the aca needs to change but we disagree on how.

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Originally Posted by Giantone

post #1060, keep spinning and cherry picking.

Giantone · 08-01-2018, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

In post 1060 you say its not perfect, i agree. You want to fix it one way, i want to get rid of it and go with a more private insurance solution. We have just shown in a microcosm of my post that most if not all americans think the aca needs to change but we disagree on how.

No what I said is that it was never perfect and I never have said it was but it was better than what some people had which was nothing and my links show many more want it the ACA to stay and just be fixed .Again you spin and yes cherry pick becuase the post was about trump and his goal of sabotaging the ACA and hurting the American people just to get what he wants.

Giantone · 08-01-2018, 06:36 AM

The Man is a complete Moron.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president...010316447.html

Giantone · 08-01-2018, 07:29 PM

This explains the tweets, he is scared!

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/special-co...opstories.html

Special counsel Mueller wants to ask Trump about obstruction of justice: Sources originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office wants to ask President Donald Trump about obstruction of justice, sources close to the White House tell ABC News. According to sources, the president learned within the last day that the special counsel will limit the scope of questioning and would like to ask questions both orally and written for the President to respond to.

mooby · 08-01-2018, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

This explains the tweets, he is scared!

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/special-co...opstories.html

Special counsel Mueller wants to ask Trump about obstruction of justice: Sources originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office wants to ask President Donald Trump about obstruction of justice, sources close to the White House tell ABC News. According to sources, the president learned within the last day that the special counsel will limit the scope of questioning and would like to ask questions both orally and written for the President to respond to.

G1, clearly you don't understand the law. Every innocent man under investigation always takes every opportunity badmouth the investigators every chance they get. It's a time-honored tactic that has proven effective time and time again.

Giantone · 08-01-2018, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

G1, clearly you don't understand the law. Every innocent man under investigation always takes every opportunity badmouth the investigators every chance they get. It's a time-honored tactic that has proven effective time and time again.

I apologize , my bad.

CRedskinsRule · 08-01-2018, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

G1, clearly you don't understand the law. Every innocent man under investigation always takes every opportunity badmouth the investigators every chance they get. It's a time-honored tactic that has proven effective time and time again.

I defy any man not to be scared of 17 angry democrats. Them dudes are vicious!

CRedskinsRule · 08-02-2018, 04:51 PM

Gosh Darn Religious fanatics

Pastor praises Trump as 'pro-black' at prison reform event-Associated Press

07-31-2018, 10:09 PM	#1072
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,903	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? I wonder who this will help??? https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/1d4ab23...-a-%24100.html According to independent analyses, Trump's plan would mainly benefit wealthy Americans, who make up a larger portion of asset sales. The Penn-Wharton Budget Model estimated that the change would cut taxes by $102 billion over 10 years, with 97.5% of the benefit from capital-gains inflation indexing going to the top 10% of income earners. In fact, according to its estimate, 63% of the benefit would go to just the top 0.1% of income earners. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-01-2018, 06:36 AM	#1075
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,903	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? The Man is a complete Moron. https://www.yahoo.com/news/president...010316447.html __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-01-2018, 07:29 PM	#1076
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,903	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? This explains the tweets, he is scared! https://www.yahoo.com/gma/special-co...opstories.html Special counsel Mueller wants to ask Trump about obstruction of justice: Sources originally appeared on abcnews.go.com Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office wants to ask President Donald Trump about obstruction of justice, sources close to the White House tell ABC News. According to sources, the president learned within the last day that the special counsel will limit the scope of questioning and would like to ask questions both orally and written for the President to respond to. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-02-2018, 04:51 PM	#1080
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,335	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? Gosh Darn Religious fanatics Pastor praises Trump as 'pro-black' at prison reform event-Associated Press Last edited by CRedskinsRule; 08-02-2018 at 05:16 PM.

When is Enough ,Enough?

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