No indictment in the mike brown case

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Ferguson prosecutor: Some witnesses lied, including woman who didn’t see shooting

Some shady shit. I think the Feds need to roll in there and take over this investigation. Definitely think the prosecutor needs to be investigated as well in this case. Can't believe they allowed that kind of shit to serve as a witness. She should be prosecuted for perjury at the very least. Fuck that cunt.

They need to prosecute ALL the witnesses that lied. Those that lied for the prosecution, and for the defense. Fuck ALL those cunts.

Thousands of pages of documents, made public, turn up several examples of testimony with little to no credibility. Witness 22, whose testimony was at first damaging to Officer Wilson, admitted she lied when pressed by investigators. Eventually telling the grand jury, quote: “I just felt like I want to be part of something…I didn’t see what I told the FBI…”

Testimony from witness 35 might have helped lead to an indictment of Officer Wilson, testifying that Michael Brown was, quote, “on his knees,” when shot in the head, by Wilson. However, it wasn’t true. The witness admits to making that story up. In one exchange, the prosecutor asked: “Are you telling us the only thing that’s true about all of your statements before this, is that you saw that police officer shoot him at-point blank range?” The answer: “Yes.”

It happened on both sides. Witness 40 supported Wilson’s version of what happened, but prosecutors revealed she posted a racist comment on-line on the day of the shooting, that read, quote: “They need to kill the ‘expletive,’ ‘expletive.’ It’s like an ape fest.” When questioned about what she allegedly saw, she admitted to having gathered some details from news reports.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Ferguson prosecutor: Some witnesses lied, including woman who didn’t see shooting

Some shady shit. I think the Feds need to roll in there and take over this investigation. Definitely think the prosecutor needs to be investigated as well in this case. Can't believe they allowed that kind of shit to serve as a witness. She should be prosecuted for perjury at the very least. Fuck that cunt.

No surprise here. This prosecutor is a racist asshole as well, been saying this since day one.

Special prosecutor should had been brought in, can't believe the state attorney General let this happen.

Major process problems within our judicial system, often overlooked

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

OK, who knows if Brown did all this, but lets look at this example:

Are you saying that if a big white guy walking down the street gets into an argument with a cop in his car, reaches in, punches the cop, struggles for the gun, shot fired, big white guy runs off a ways, then says "you're too big a p***y to shoot me" to the cop, and runs back at him, the big white guy would likely just be in jail instead of dead now?

The trend in this country appears to be that white males in dangerous situations are more likely to come out alive:

Armed man shot, injured by San Diego police in Mission Bay - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego

than black males in similar or less dangerous situations:

South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The trend in this country appears to be that white males in dangerous situations are more likely to come out alive:

Armed man shot, injured by San Diego police in Mission Bay - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego

than black males in similar or less dangerous situations:

South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

You're still nuts if you imply that a white guy acting like Micheal Brown did would have had a better chance of surviving.

We don't know exactly how Micheal Brown acted with the cop, though it's proven he attacked the cop. Here's a pic again of how Micheal Brown was acting earlier that day, while shoplifting. After the shooting, some described him as a "gentle giant". Smh.


Oh and shame on your selective quotes above. Just like shame on the selective outrage of people above apparently only against perjury when it suits them.

Salt Lake cop cleared in shooting of unarmed white man

28-year-old man was arrested Wednesday after an hour long standoff with the Orange County Sheriff's Office, officials said. - Gunman that police didn't shoot was black, in case you wonder

Gunman executes 2 NYPD cops in Garner 'revenge'



There is a perception out there that needs addressing. And it's not just all about racism on whites part.

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” - Jesse Jackson

So why would Jesse Jackson say that?

[Ruhskins]

The two articles I posted are just a quick sample. I'm sure you can find actual statistics about how certain groups end up getting shot and killed by police more often than others. Here is a quick one that I found:

Exactly How Often Do Police Shoot Unarmed Black Men? | Mother Jones

I'm sure there are white men that could end up getting killed in a similar situation. But the way that the police acts towards people color is a concern, especially in the not so well known cases when a person gets shot without committing a crime. There are also many incidents of people of color from middle class and up who often face the same treatment.

Garner and Brown are the just the tip of the iceberg; and probably not the best cases to become the symbol of this issue.

The problem with this country is that people like to immediately go to the extremes and refuse to come to the middle for a discussion. Yes there are many problems with crime in many predominately black/brown communities (I grew up in one of them). No, this issue is not just about racism from the part of white people. But a lot of people are easily trying to dismiss the notion that black and brown people are treated different in many situations, including in cases very different from Brown and Garner.

As a person of color, I WISH we didn't have this issue in this country. I wish that the Brown and Garner case were isolated incidents. But I have witnessed through my own experience and that of friends of color that we tend to be treated differently.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The two articles I posted are just a quick sample. I'm sure you can find actual statistics about how certain groups end up getting shot and killed by police more often than others. Here is a quick one that I found:

Exactly How Often Do Police Shoot Unarmed Black Men? | Mother Jones

I'm sure there are white men that could end up getting killed in a similar situation. But the way that the police acts towards people color is a concern, especially in the not so well known cases when a person gets shot without committing a crime. There are also many incidents of people of color from middle class and up who often face the same treatment.

Garner and Brown are the just the tip of the iceberg; and probably not the best cases to become the symbol of this issue.

The problem with this country is that people like to immediately go to the extremes and refuse to come to the middle for a discussion. Yes there are many problems with crime in many predominately black/brown communities (I grew up in one of them). No, this issue is not just about racism from the part of white people. But a lot of people are easily trying to dismiss the notion that black and brown people are treated different in many situations, including in cases very different from Brown and Garner.

As a person of color, I WISH we didn't have this issue in this country. I wish that the Brown and Garner case were isolated incidents. But I have witnessed through my own experience and that of friends of color that we tend to be treated differently.

Even by police oficers of color , politicians of color and government officials of color ? The stats you posted are interesting ,I would like to see the same break down using the minority crime on crime stat ,ie. Black on Black,Asian on Asian , White on White .

[Chico23231]

question, did mike brown and eric garner deserve to die? Did they receive proper justice for their actions?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

question, did mike brown and eric garner deserve to die? Did they receive proper justice for their actions?

Better question ,by their actions did they contribute to their own death ?Answer yes ,did they deserve to die ,no,very few people deserve to die .Their own actions in resisting arrest kept them from getting any legal representation .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The two articles I posted are just a quick sample. I'm sure you can find actual statistics about how certain groups end up getting shot and killed by police more often than others. Here is a quick one that I found:

Exactly How Often Do Police Shoot Unarmed Black Men? | Mother Jones

I'm sure there are white men that could end up getting killed in a similar situation. But the way that the police acts towards people color is a concern, especially in the not so well known cases when a person gets shot without committing a crime. There are also many incidents of people of color from middle class and up who often face the same treatment.

Garner and Brown are the just the tip of the iceberg; and probably not the best cases to become the symbol of this issue.

The problem with this country is that people like to immediately go to the extremes and refuse to come to the middle for a discussion. Yes there are many problems with crime in many predominately black/brown communities (I grew up in one of them). No, this issue is not just about racism from the part of white people. But a lot of people are easily trying to dismiss the notion that black and brown people are treated different in many situations, including in cases very different from Brown and Garner.

As a person of color, I WISH we didn't have this issue in this country. I wish that the Brown and Garner case were isolated incidents. But I have witnessed through my own experience and that of friends of color that we tend to be treated differently.

Agreed. But when racism is brought up when it's not the case, and when there's excuses made for people to act criminally, it just means the status quo continues.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

question, did mike brown and eric garner deserve to die?

Mike Brown brought his death on himself attacking the cop. Eric Garner resisted arrest, but didn't deserve death.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Did they receive proper justice for their actions?

Mike Brown won a Darwin Award. I am surprised the cop in the Eric Garner case wasn't indicted for manslaughter or negligent homicide or at least something.

[Hog1]

Study: Police Use Of Force Bias Exists, But Not When It Comes To Shootings « CBS Philly

interesting........