Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by calia

Shit - Armani Rodgers busted his Achilles. Was intrigued by his potential.

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Damn, that sucks. Feels like it's destined for him to never really actually play for us.

Unless Thomas is better after more time from his injury, not very excited about the TE room at all.

[MTK]

Really sucks about Rodgers, he seems to have some nice potential.

If they were really concerned about Logan Thomas I think they would have made a move to upgrade TE. I think they're counting on him bouncing back strong.

[SFREDSKIN]

NO!! Rogers was my breakout player this year, I'm pissed!!!

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by calia

Shit - Armani Rodgers busted his Achilles. Was intrigued by his potential.


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That sucks...just tough luck for him. He missed six games due to injury last year and it looks like he'll miss the entire 2023 season.

He was 4th on the depth chart though. Maybe he was going to break out - maybe not. With regard to his production thus far though (5 total receptions), it won't be too hard to replace him. I don't really see this as a significant blow.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Kazmeir Allen - sounds like an exciting young player. Still early, but depending on how he progresses, he could potentially makes Curtis Samuel a cap casualty. Would be over $10mil cap savings if CS is released after 6/1.

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/...kazmeir-allen/

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Kazmeir Allen - sounds like an exciting young player. Still early, but depending on how he progresses, he could potentially makes Curtis Samuel a cap casualty. Would be over $10mil cap savings if CS is released after 6/1.

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/...kazmeir-allen/

Yup, i wouldn’t cut Curtis now but Allen just seems like that typical Chiefs gadget player. And my goodness, get Mline off any kick returns and just off the team

[mooby]

Le'Veon Bell says he liked to get high before games.

I think the real takeaway here is the fact that head coaches make a big difference. Lotta people shit on Tomlin because they haven't been contenders in years but the reality is when your head coach is a guy like Adam Gase he makes Tomlin look like Belichick. If a player went from an All-Pro under Tomlin to a JAG under Gase safe to take him at his word that head coaches matter.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Kazmeir Allen - sounds like an exciting young player. Still early, but depending on how he progresses, he could potentially makes Curtis Samuel a cap casualty. Would be over $10mil cap savings if CS is released after 6/1.

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/...kazmeir-allen/

I'm eager to see what Allen can do but I think you're getting a little carried away to think he can beat out Curtis Samuel. To me, having a healthy Curtis Samuel in a contract year (in other words, fully capable and highly motivated) is a very good thing for Commanders fans.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I'm not sure I would say I'm getting carried away. I did say it's still early and that it would depend on how he progresses.

I don't think it's out of the question though. If K Allen shows enough to where they think he can offer the same production (or more) than what they have been able to squeeze out of the oft-injured Curtis Samuel, he could definitely become a cap casualty. That's a lot of dough that could be used for extending someone else (Young, Sweat, Curl, Fuller, Gibson, Reaves...).

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Kazmeir Allen - sounds like an exciting young player. Still early, but depending on how he progresses, he could potentially makes Curtis Samuel a cap casualty. Would be over $10mil cap savings if CS is released after 6/1.

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/...kazmeir-allen/

I cant see Curtis as a cap casualty this season.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I cant see Curtis as a cap casualty this season.

You're probably right. It's not likely. And FWIW, I'd rather see a healthy CS ballin' out in 2023 anyway. Maybe he can remain healthy and take another step forward - build some rapport with Sam, while K Allen brings something to the return game that we haven't had in a while...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

You're probably right. It's not likely. And FWIW, I'd rather see a healthy CS ballin' out in 2023 anyway. Maybe he can remain healthy and take another step forward - build some rapport with Sam, while K Allen brings something to the return game that we haven't had in a while...

I'm all in for that! If Allen can bring more to the table GREAT!

[FrenchSkin]

Looked at Nick Gates' snaps during last year's week 14 game against the Eagles.
He looked rather small, won't out physical anybody, but seems to have good vision, decent hand placement and footwork.
None of his movement look really sharp nor fast, but he seems to fit the "hat on a hat" philosophy, most of the time he'll be in front of his guy and do just enough.

LG #65
Couple of bad plays:
Completely beaten by a swim move


And here a slow to spot the blitzing safety, still does enough to avoid the sack, Jones runs back to the LoS



Couple of good plays:
Handles a stunt well, he did for most of the game, often looking to stay active and help the LT


Kinda of his most physical play of the game, and a good show of what he is, a decent guy that'll do enough



Still would have loved a couple of clear cut updates to feel more confortable about our OL, but depending on how the rookies perform, maybe they did do enough to have a functioning unit.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Looked at Nick Gates' snaps during last year's week 14 game against the Eagles.
He looked rather small, won't out physical anybody, but seems to have good vision, decent hand placement and footwork.
None of his movement look really sharp nor fast, but he seems to fit the "hat on a hat" philosophy, most of the time he'll be in front of his guy and do just enough.

LG #65
Couple of bad plays:
Completely beaten by a swim move


And here a slow to spot the blitzing safety, still does enough to avoid the sack, Jones runs back to the LoS



Couple of good plays:
Handles a stunt well, he did for most of the game, often looking to stay active and help the LT


Kinda of his most physical play of the game, and a good show of what he is, a decent guy that'll do enough



Still would have loved a couple of clear cut updates to feel more confortable about our OL, but depending on how the rookies perform, maybe they did do enough to have a functioning unit.

Gates wasn't completely recovered from his broken leg last season. He claims that he is fully recovered and fit now. So, if you were to look at his film of him before his severe injury, as I did, I think you would see a much better player. If he can come all the way back from his injury, we may have a very good starting center. That is, maybe... it's possible...hopefully, if we get lucky...keep your fingers crossed..say a little prayer...order a vial of miracle spring water from a T.V. evangelist.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Gates wasn't completely recovered from his broken leg last season. He claims that he is fully recovered and fit now. So, if you were to look at his film of him before his severe injury, as I did, I think you would see a much better player. If he can come all the way back from his injury, we may have a very good starting center. That is, maybe... it's possible...hopefully, if we get lucky...keep your fingers crossed..say a little prayer...order a vial of miracle spring water from a T.V. evangelist.

Yeah I actually hesitated between looking at his before injury film or the most recent one. I opted for the later but thanks for the insight, I'll check a before injury game too.