Around the NFL Week 2

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Jayden Daniels > Caleb Williams > Bryce Young

It's been only 2 games, let's wait 1-2 years to see who is better. Although there is no doubt the first 2 are definitely better than Young.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by calia

Does anyone else hate their stupid tush push as much as I do? It just doesn’t feel like football. Rather fitting that a team I hate is the culprit.


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It has been around as long as football has been played they just seem to utilize it way more than other teams. Typically I see it in goal line situations with QB sneaks etc.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

It has been around as long as football has been played they just seem to utilize it way more than other teams. Typically I see it in goal line situations with QB sneaks etc.

Traditional QB sneaks are not the same play. The aim is to create a gap the QB can push himself into.

Until they changed the assisting the runner rule the backs couldn't push the QB. I'm actually surprised it took so long for someone the come up with the tush push, given its nearly 20 years since the rule change.

[jamf]

I'm hesitant to give up on Bryce Young.
Panthers owner is the new Snyder and a bunch of old first round busts are playing well for new teams.

I'd like to see him as a backup on the Rams or Seahawks.

[That Guy]

I thought i saw that the panthers OL was actually reasonable (pff or similar). our OL is decent in run blocking and JD doesn't hold it super long, which helps a bit.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I feel that you could have written this: "They kinda did what the Commanders are doing with Jaden Daniels right now. Drafted him #2, and didn't have a decent OL in place and just threw him out to start". Isn't that the way of the NFL for QB's drafted at the top of the draft?

The larger problem for Carolina is that they traded up to #1 to get a QB aIn my mind, there are minimund then drafted the wrong one! m height, weight, and arm strength requirements for a QB to even be considered as a draft pick. He does not meet any of those minimums IMO. And my personal height and weight minimums keep going up every couple of years as the defensive players keep getting taller and stronger.

The largest problem of all for the Panthers is that they have a meddling nincompoop owner who forces the football side to do stupid things. That can only change with new ownership.

5'9 average armed QB's a rare in the NFL. Still shocked the Panthers took Young w/ Stroud sitting there. They must be kicking themselves every single day.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

5'9 average armed QB's a rare in the NFL. Still shocked the Panthers took Young w/ Stroud sitting there. They must be kicking themselves every single day.

Frank Reich wanted CJ Stroud, but was overruled by the owner. Tepper is the new Snyder. Again showing how much a meddling owner can have long lasting consequences on the field.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by jamf

I'm hesitant to give up on Bryce Young.
Panthers owner is the new Snyder and a bunch of old first round busts are playing well for new teams.

I'd like to see him as a backup on the Rams or Seahawks.

I am not giving up on Young, I am giving up on anyone in the Panthers front office to develop a QB, Darnold left Carolina looks great, Baker while there for just a little while left there looks great.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Jayden Daniels > Caleb Williams > Bryce Young

Everybody > Bryce Young

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Everybody > Bryce Young

He was a really good college QB in that system with those WRs/RBs. I think it's too early to truly give up on him, but there are plenty of examples of these guys getting drafted top 5 based on what they accomplished in college, only to crash & burn.

He looked broken and lost on the sideline last weekend. Time will tell.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He was a really good college QB in that system with those WRs/RBs. I think it's too early to truly give up on him, but there are plenty of examples of these guys getting drafted top 5 based on what they accomplished in college, only to crash & burn.

He looked broken and lost on the sideline last weekend. Time will tell.

Nothing is going to make him any taller. He was standing in the pocket on tiptoe to see over the line in a video I watched. In today's NFL, I wouldn't draft any QB under 6'2" tall unless he was very mobile and had a strong arm. Even Caleb who is a very special talent is going to have some difficulty because of his lack of height.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Nothing is going to make him any taller. He was standing in the pocket on tiptoe to see over the line in a video I watched. In today's NFL, I wouldn't draft any QB under 6'2" tall unless he was very mobile and had a strong arm. Even Caleb who is a very special talent is going to have some difficulty because of his lack of height.

This is a great point about how important having a taller qb really is. Everyone forgets Jayden is 6'4". Height is no issue here and he move around the pocket with the best of them. Totally agree having a taller qb is an advantage.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Traditional QB sneaks are not the same play. The aim is to create a gap the QB can push himself into.

Until they changed the assisting the runner rule the backs couldn't push the QB. I'm actually surprised it took so long for someone the come up with the tush push, given its nearly 20 years since the rule change.

I remember at far back in the 80s in goal line situations where a runner with the ball gets stood up at the line and teammates pushed them from behind.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Nothing is going to make him any taller. He was standing in the pocket on tiptoe to see over the line in a video I watched. In today's NFL, I wouldn't draft any QB under 6'2" tall unless he was very mobile and had a strong arm. Even Caleb who is a very special talent is going to have some difficulty because of his lack of height.

Height, being taller, is definitely an advantage, but at 5' 10" he could still have success. He could still be a really good quarterback in the NFL. Isn't he the same height as Kyler Murray, and pretty close to Russell Wilson's height? I guess you can't always trust what it says on the team pages.

I just think he was set up for failure from the get-go. We shall see.

[skinsfan69]

Caleb is totally lost and he isn't getting much help from his line. He should be on the bench.