Pre Draft Thread 2.0

[SkinzWin]

We are not trading the farm to move into the top 5-7. Not Ron’s style. Like others have said, MAYBE moving up a couple spots at most if there’s a guy there they covet. Otherwise it’ll be BPA for us or move back for more picks if a trade partner is available.

Every year this are always reaches and guys that fall in the 1st round they no one expects. We may very well still be able to end up with a top choice at 19.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

We are not trading the farm to move into the top 5-7. Not Ron’s style. Like others have said, MAYBE moving up a couple spots at most if there’s a guy there they covet. Otherwise it’ll be BPA for us or move back for more picks if a trade partner is available.

Every year this are always reaches and guys that fall in the 1st round they no one expects. We may very well still be able to end up with a top choice at 19.

Agreed. I don't see them moving into the top 10. I hope they stay put or trade back and acquire more picks.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Here's my mock from PFN with a couple trade-backs to acquire a total of six picks in the first four rounds and a 2022 2nd.

32: OT Jalen Mayfield - Michigan (trade)
51: LB Nick Bolton - Missouri
64: WR Amon-Ra St. Brown - USC (trade)
75: S Jevon Holland - Oregon (trade)
82: TE Brevin Jordan - Miami
138: QB Jamie Newman - Georgia (trade)
244: OT Josh Ball - Marshall
246: DT Ta'Quon Graham - Texas

2022 TB 2nd

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Here's my mock from PFN with a couple trade-backs to acquire a total of six picks in the first four rounds and a 2022 2nd.

32: OT Jalen Mayfield - Michigan (trade)
51: LB Nick Bolton - Missouri
64: WR Amon-Ra St. Brown - USC (trade)
75: S Jevon Holland - Oregon (trade)
82: TE Brevin Jordan - Miami
138: QB Jamie Newman - Georgia (trade)
244: OT Josh Ball - Marshall
246: DT Ta'Quon Graham - Texas

2022 TB 2nd

I love having 5 picks in the first 82.

I'm not a big Jamie Newman guy, but that could be my Louisville Cardinal bias coming out. He could pan out.

Solid work.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Didn’t know all this

Gotta remember these days, inciting a riot is ok depending on what kinda riot

NO, RIOTS are not ok! Period!

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by simbosargos75

Pass on Parsons.

And I would be surprised if we weren't one of the teams who took him off their board

I would run to select Parsons if he were available. We don't need a room of choir boys, we need football players. Parsons is a VERY good football player. Would you have wanted Ray Lewis? He was a great player, but did far worse things than Parsons has done.

[MTK]

You obviously do your homework on a guy like Parsons, I trust Ron here

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

You obviously do your homework on a guy like Parsons, I trust Ron here

That's it right there.

It's all a good discussion, but I think there is probably zero chance he falls past 12, and most likely not out of the top 10.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That's it right there.

It's all a good discussion, but I think there is probably zero chance he falls past 12, and most likely not out of the top 10.

There's definitely a chance.

Up to 5 QBS could go in the top 10.

Then Penei Sewell and Rashawn Slater, OT.

And Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Wadle at WR.

Plus Kyle Pitts, TE and Patrick Surtain II, CB.



Parsons will probably fall within or just after that list of players...so top 10 is possible but not guaranteed, especially with so many teams not considering him.

There's a chance LB Zaven Collins goes before him too. I'd take him over Parsons here.

[sdskinsfan2001]

19: R1 P19 LB Micah Parsons - Penn State
51: R2 P19 OT Sam Cosmi - Texas
74: R3 P10 TE Brevin Jordan - Miami (FL)
82: R3 P18 QB Davis Mills - Stanford
124: R4 P19 LB Monty Rice - Georgia
163: R5 P19 WR Shi Smith - South Carolina
244: R7 P16 CB Darren Hall - San Diego State
246: R7 P18 S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh

[Monkeydad]

^ That's a great draft, quality at the positions of most need.

We've bought a year at QB. We don't have to draft one this year, we can roll with Fitz and see if Heinicke is a long-term answer. If he's not, we draft one high next season...or get Aaron Rodgers who should be available.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

19: R1 P19 LB Micah Parsons - Penn State
51: R2 P19 OT Sam Cosmi - Texas
74: R3 P10 TE Brevin Jordan - Miami (FL)
82: R3 P18 QB Davis Mills - Stanford
124: R4 P19 LB Monty Rice - Georgia
163: R5 P19 WR Shi Smith - South Carolina
244: R7 P16 CB Darren Hall - San Diego State
246: R7 P18 S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh

Cosmi is one of those Tackles I like in the 2-3rd...ND guy as well. Also the Walker guy from Stanford wouldn’t be bad late 3-4th.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cosmi is one of those Tackles I like in the 2-3rd...ND guy as well. Also the Walker guy from Stanford wouldn’t be bad late 3-4th.

We should definitely be able to land a solid T with 1 of the 1st 3 picks. There are some good options outside of the 1st.

[Defensewins]

I remember a certain wasted second round pick just a few years ago, Derrius Guice. He dropped like a lead weight for serious reasons and our then weak ass FO drafted him despite the red flags.
When investing a highly valuable asset like high draft and at 19 in this deep draft there are other options available. Don't become blinded.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I remember a certain wasted second round pick just a few years ago, Derrius Guice. He dropped like a lead weight for serious reasons and our then weak ass FO drafted him despite the red flags.
When investing a highly valuable asset like high draft and at 19 in this deep draft there are other options available. Don't become blinded.

I totally agree that they have to do their homework on who they pick, but with Parsons, unless there is something out there that I haven't seen, I see zero red flags. There's definitely nothing there comparable to Derrius Guice's track record (that I'm aware of).

I think it's probably a moot argument anyway, there's no way he'll be there at 19.