Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL?

Longtimefan · 12-23-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I'd like to see him given another chance.. if Mason can get one Alridge should.

That was my thought as well. I thought maybe since Shanahan is famaliar with him and he was here for a sandwich, maybe there can be a place for him. Even if dosen't get carries maybe he can contribute as a returner without fumbling.

warriorzpath · 12-23-2009, 05:57 PM

I think the redskins defense, including the defensive backs, have played pretty good this year -- even though they just got destroyed by the giants.

I think everyone is overreacting just a little because the redskins were embarrassed on Monday night. The problem with the whole entire redskins defense , including the coaches, is that they don't adjust very well when things aren't going well -- so everything just snowballs and they keep making the same mistakes over and over. So they have played pretty good when they gameplan well, but when that plan doesn't work they don't have a plan B and the opposing offense can take advantage of those weaknesses the whole game. I guess you can say the same thing about the redskins offensive gameplanning and adjustments this season; the difference being -- the offense for the beginning of the season didn't really bring a good gameplan coming in.

Lotus · 12-23-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, if he goes after LeGarrette Blount, I'll be worried.

You're speaking to the president of the "Shanahan can't draft" club. But even though he misses on a lot of picks, the running backs who PLAY always perform.

Mr. President, would you agree that he does better drafting offensive players rather than defensive players? I'm hardly defending his draft record here, just noticing that his record on the defensive side is especially lame. He drafted Al Wilson and...well, that's about it.

budw38 · 12-23-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think he has. I'm just pointing out that he's a douchebag.

If he's a scheme fit, and he doesn't cost anything, then he can be a douchebag who scores 8 TDs for my team. But those are the kind of guys that you have to be right on, and SmootSmack was pointing out that Shanahan has brought these guys in, and then found out they couldn't play at a later time.

Blount would be interesting in rd 4 or 5 . GTripp , what do you think of , E. Williams , Rinehart , M. Williams as backups or being able to be capable starters in 2010 ? Not that I want ALL three to go into camp as our top prospects , just wanted your opinion based on what you have seen on film , thanks . Hail skins ... merry Christmas ... and beat them darn cowboys !!!!!!

KI Skins Fan · 12-23-2009, 06:26 PM

No other need is nearly as great as the need for offensive linemen. Our OL is an unmitigated disaster area and there is no way we can compete for a playoff spot in 2010 unless it is addressed via Free Agency and the Draft during the offseason. Honestly, there isn't a single OL on our roster who I would miss if he were to be replaced.

53Fan · 12-23-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

No other need is nearly as great as the need for offensive linemen. Our OL is an unmitigated disaster area and there is no way we can compete for a playoff spot in 2010 unless it is addressed via Free Agency and the Draft during the offseason. Honestly, there isn't a single OL on our roster who I would miss if he were to be replaced.

Sadly...I agree.

mlmdub130 · 12-23-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

No way this guy would ever be considered a featured back, but remember Anthony Alridge? Shanahan was the one that recomended to Cerrato he take a look at this guy and they spoke highly of him in Denver as though some there didn't want to see him leave.

still don't know why we got rid of him and dorsey and kept mason, alridge and dorsey were what i consider change of pace backs, because they had some serious speed and dorsey is a sick return guy

budw38 · 12-23-2009, 07:44 PM

Wr .... Wr .... Wr ....

tryfuhl · 12-23-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

Wr .... Wr .... Wr ....

Ahhh the "2nd round" plan almost

SmootSmack · 12-23-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

No way this guy would ever be considered a featured back, but remember Anthony Alridge? Shanahan was the one that recomended to Cerrato he take a look at this guy and they spoke highly of him in Denver as though some there didn't want to see him leave.

Yup. That's why I purposely left him off my list

Pocket$ $traight · 12-24-2009, 02:17 AM

HA HA HA

This is a great thread! Welcome to the site, Vinny!

LandrySlice · 12-24-2009, 04:38 AM

VINNY! The CBs suck pretty bad, but I think that Barnes will end up being good for some reason... just a hunch

GTripp0012 · 12-24-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

Blount would be interesting in rd 4 or 5 . GTripp , what do you think of , E. Williams , Rinehart , M. Williams as backups or being able to be capable starters in 2010 ? Not that I want ALL three to go into camp as our top prospects , just wanted your opinion based on what you have seen on film , thanks . Hail skins ... merry Christmas ... and beat them darn cowboys !!!!!!

I think an interior line of Mike Williams, Rinehart, and Edwin Williams would be better than an interior line of Will Montgomery, Derrick Dockery, and Casey Rabach. I'd actually like to see that starting OL for one year, with fresh blood at the tackle positions.

But it's easily screwed up. A line of Dockery, Edwin Williams, and Mike Williams would get no push in the running game. No athletcism. A line of Dockery, E. Williams, and Rinehart would look a lot like this years line. Bringing Rabach back would delay the inevitable, I think.

CultBrennan59 · 12-25-2009, 12:24 AM

Yes corner is IMO, as equal of importance to our team needs as OL. I think the only corner worthy of us getting in the first round of april is Joe Haden. After that there is really no worthy OLineman for the next few rounds. But look at the Colts, they're 14-0 with an Undrafted Rookie Corner Jacob Lacey starting on one side, and a 3rd round Rookie Corner Jerraud Powers starting on the other side. Now our luck of getting a guy that good in the later rounds isn't that good but who knows. The OLineman coming out this year are great throughout the upcoming draft. We could get a starting LT in maybe the 3rd round, thats how good the depth is.

Back to the corner deal though, Smoot is gone next year for sure, and most likely either Rogers or Tryon are gone aswell. So yes there is an obvious need for corner especially after last game with Eli picking at our secondary constantly, especially all 3 guys I mentioned above. I know I've used this example before but look at the Steelers from last year, Amazing defense, ok offense. The corners on that defense could play what ever coverage you would ask of them, allowing the defense to glue together and play at a consistent level. The offensive line was awful, but did just enough to allow the offense to get a play when it needed it. Defense wins championships. That would be my arguement to get a corner with our first rounder.

DBUCHANON101 · 12-25-2009, 12:52 AM

Simple answer, NO!!

12-23-2009, 05:57 PM	#47
warriorzpath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,880	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? I think the redskins defense, including the defensive backs, have played pretty good this year -- even though they just got destroyed by the giants. I think everyone is overreacting just a little because the redskins were embarrassed on Monday night. The problem with the whole entire redskins defense , including the coaches, is that they don't adjust very well when things aren't going well -- so everything just snowballs and they keep making the same mistakes over and over. So they have played pretty good when they gameplan well, but when that plan doesn't work they don't have a plan B and the opposing offense can take advantage of those weaknesses the whole game. I guess you can say the same thing about the redskins offensive gameplanning and adjustments this season; the difference being -- the offense for the beginning of the season didn't really bring a good gameplan coming in.

12-23-2009, 06:26 PM	#50
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,368	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? No other need is nearly as great as the need for offensive linemen. Our OL is an unmitigated disaster area and there is no way we can compete for a playoff spot in 2010 unless it is addressed via Free Agency and the Draft during the offseason. Honestly, there isn't a single OL on our roster who I would miss if he were to be replaced.

12-23-2009, 07:44 PM	#53
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? Wr .... Wr .... Wr ....

12-24-2009, 02:17 AM	#56
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? HA HA HA This is a great thread! Welcome to the site, Vinny!

12-24-2009, 04:38 AM	#57
LandrySlice Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: AFGHANISTAN Posts: 335	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? VINNY! The CBs suck pretty bad, but I think that Barnes will end up being good for some reason... just a hunch __________________ Don't tase me bro!!!!

12-25-2009, 12:24 AM	#59
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? Yes corner is IMO, as equal of importance to our team needs as OL. I think the only corner worthy of us getting in the first round of april is Joe Haden. After that there is really no worthy OLineman for the next few rounds. But look at the Colts, they're 14-0 with an Undrafted Rookie Corner Jacob Lacey starting on one side, and a 3rd round Rookie Corner Jerraud Powers starting on the other side. Now our luck of getting a guy that good in the later rounds isn't that good but who knows. The OLineman coming out this year are great throughout the upcoming draft. We could get a starting LT in maybe the 3rd round, thats how good the depth is. Back to the corner deal though, Smoot is gone next year for sure, and most likely either Rogers or Tryon are gone aswell. So yes there is an obvious need for corner especially after last game with Eli picking at our secondary constantly, especially all 3 guys I mentioned above. I know I've used this example before but look at the Steelers from last year, Amazing defense, ok offense. The corners on that defense could play what ever coverage you would ask of them, allowing the defense to glue together and play at a consistent level. The offensive line was awful, but did just enough to allow the offense to get a play when it needed it. Defense wins championships. That would be my arguement to get a corner with our first rounder.

12-25-2009, 12:52 AM	#60
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Isn't Cornerback as Big a Need as OL? Simple answer, NO!! __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

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