Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ?

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2021, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Folks, it doesn't matter. We've already done the high profile retreads (Gibbs, Shanahan), the college coach (Spurrier), the out of left field shot in the dark (Zorn), the up and coming coordinator (Gruden). We've done it all.

We need to try Assistant WR Coach.

But you are right, a Snyder owned team will never win shit. And he doesn't deserve to win shit. Sucks that we all have to be punished for his sins.

mredskins · 11-01-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Stop gap for who?

We already out kicked our coverage just getting Ron in the first place.

Nobody higher profile than Ron is coming to take this job.

Exactly!!!!

No creditable head coach would want come here.

MTK · 11-01-2021, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We need to try Assistant WR Coach.

But you are right, a Snyder owned team will never win shit. And he doesn't deserve to win shit. Sucks that we all have to be punished for his sins.

Maybe Dan's HVAC guy will know who to hire next.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2021, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Maybe Dan's HVAC guy will know who to hire next.

😆 🤣 😂

Get em' on the horn.

skinsfan69 · 11-01-2021, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Yeah. That was the nail in the coffin. I don't have much faith in the organization or any of the top guys. Wright blew it with the ST21 fiasco, Rivera blew it, JDR blew it, and of course Blewit blew it.

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I highly doubt Wright had much to do w/ the Taylor embarrassment. That had Dan or Tayna written all over it.

Redskins247 · 11-01-2021, 05:31 PM

The big issue this season is the disappointing defense, everyone is upset that they have regressed from year one to two under Ron/Del Rio...they made a few changes and they have not worked at all. If the defense was playing well and we were still losing (because of lack of QB mostly) I really don't think fans would be where we're at. But with the defense sucking, the losing, and all the other Dan shit...here we are. So if next seasons defense doesn't get back to at least the 2020 defense AND somehow get a decent starting QB...Ron's days will be numbered.

skinsfan69 · 11-01-2021, 05:34 PM

Ron isn't going anywhere. He gets at least 3 years. Problem is we'll most likely be playing a rookie a good portion of the 2022 season. Expect more losses next year. How will ownership take to that? Will they have the patience as the losses mount?

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2021, 05:39 PM

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I highly doubt Wright had much to do w/ the Taylor embarrassment. That had Dan or Tayna written all over it.

That Wright didn't/couldn't/wouldn't step in and prevent it is where he blew it. Sure it was the Snyder's doing, but as the president, he had to put his fight in and draw the line, or if it was to be done over his objections- make damn sure that there are no port a potties in the pictures.

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SunnySide · 11-01-2021, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins247

The big issue this season is the disappointing defense, everyone is upset that they have regressed from year one to two under Ron/Del Rio...they made a few changes and they have not worked at all. If the defense was playing well and we were still losing (because of lack of QB mostly) I really don't think fans would be where we're at. But with the defense sucking, the losing, and all the other Dan shit...here we are. So if next seasons defense doesn't get back to at least the 2020 defense AND somehow get a decent starting QB...Ron's days will be numbered.

This is where Im feel like I am at. I predicted wed go 8-9, miss the playoffs and get bad draft spot to boot but I also predicted wed be competitive and in games. losing close ones.

This?

This defense? With all the resources we poured into it?

mind blowing how it is even possible for this group of talent on D to be performing so poorly. They have improved a tiny bit in LB coverage play. Perhaps our DL is winning at the LOS just not making splash plays.

If this D played half as good as they should be, were 4-4 and right where we thought we would be.

The D play is just incomprehensible.

skinsfan69 · 11-01-2021, 05:41 PM

There is no salary cap on what coaches are paid. People will come here for the money. Shanahan came here knowing how incompetent and meddlesome Dan is. He was the biggest name in the NFL w/out a job at the time and he had no problem taking Dan's $.

Ohioskins · 11-01-2021, 07:14 PM

I just don't know why anyone EVER expected success from Rivera. His time at Carolina was successful when Cam was acting like superman. As Cam declined, so did the team. Rivera did nothing special there. Why expect a different result here?

skinsfan69 · 11-01-2021, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That Wright didn't/couldn't/wouldn't step in and prevent it is where he blew it. Sure it was the Snyder's doing, but as the president, he had to put his fight in and draw the line, or if it was to be done over his objections- make damn sure that there are no port a potties in the pictures.

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I think couldn't is the key word there..

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2021, 10:06 PM

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I think couldn't is the key word there..

I think couldn't is a cop out. He shouldn't have allowed it and it should have been a hill to die on. ST holds a special place in this team's history and Wright should have gone to any length to prevent what happened.

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skinsfan69 · 11-01-2021, 11:08 PM

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I think couldn't is a cop out. He shouldn't have allowed it and it should have been a hill to die on. ST holds a special place in this team's history and Wright should have gone to any length to prevent what happened.

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When his bosses ( who are paying you a lot of money ) want something done in the end he is going to go along. It's part of the territory working for Dan. He can object, he probably did but he does not sign the checks.

Reminds me of when Dan came in the draft room and took Haskins. What are the coaches and scouts going to do?

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2021, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

When his bosses ( who are paying you a lot of money ) want something done in the end he is going to go along. It's part of the territory working for Dan. He can object, he probably did but he does not sign the checks.

Reminds me of when Dan came in the draft room and took Haskins. What are the coaches and scouts going to do?

It's one thing for a coach or assistant to object in a draft. It is different for the president of the organization. I resigned as general manager of a company because the owner was out of line on holiday pay. I think if Wright and Rivera stood up to Dan or Tanya on ST they would have won, or at least gotten it handled better. That's what changing the organization means for the WFT.

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11-01-2021, 05:31 PM	#51
Redskins247 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 871	Re: Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ? The big issue this season is the disappointing defense, everyone is upset that they have regressed from year one to two under Ron/Del Rio...they made a few changes and they have not worked at all. If the defense was playing well and we were still losing (because of lack of QB mostly) I really don't think fans would be where we're at. But with the defense sucking, the losing, and all the other Dan shit...here we are. So if next seasons defense doesn't get back to at least the 2020 defense AND somehow get a decent starting QB...Ron's days will be numbered.

11-01-2021, 05:34 PM	#52
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,251	Re: Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ? Ron isn't going anywhere. He gets at least 3 years. Problem is we'll most likely be playing a rookie a good portion of the 2022 season. Expect more losses next year. How will ownership take to that? Will they have the patience as the losses mount?

11-01-2021, 05:41 PM	#55
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,251	Re: Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ? There is no salary cap on what coaches are paid. People will come here for the money. Shanahan came here knowing how incompetent and meddlesome Dan is. He was the biggest name in the NFL w/out a job at the time and he had no problem taking Dan's $.

11-01-2021, 07:14 PM	#56
Ohioskins Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dublin, Ohio Posts: 327	Re: Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ? I just don't know why anyone EVER expected success from Rivera. His time at Carolina was successful when Cam was acting like superman. As Cam declined, so did the team. Rivera did nothing special there. Why expect a different result here?

Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ?

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