Coronavirus (political)

SolidSnake84 · 07-13-2020, 05:33 PM

Per sources with the VA Governor's office, Virginia is expected to be moving back into Phase 1. An announcement will be officially made tomorrow at 2pm.

It is also expected that Governor Northam will announce that all of VA's schools will be distancing learning, going forward.

My thoughts: VA will stay in Phase 1 until we get the vaccine out to the masses.

Chico23231 · 07-14-2020, 11:30 PM

MTK · 07-15-2020, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

That would work better with DeSantis

MTK · 07-15-2020, 09:53 AM

Mission Accomplished!

SunnySide · 07-15-2020, 10:57 AM

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro tore into Dr. Anthony Fauci in a stunning op-ed on Wednesday, saying the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director, who has been a leading voice on the Coronavirus Task Force, has been “wrong about everything.”

“Dr. Anthony Fauci has a good bedside manner with the public, but he has been wrong about everything I have interacted with him on,” Navarro wrote in a blistering op-ed for USA Today.

Navarro began by saying that Fauci “fought against” Trump’s “courageous decision” in late January to suspend flights from China as the novel coronavirus began to spread, arguing that that decision “might well have saved hundreds of thousands of American lives.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tra...out-everything

The president’s comments contradict what both he and Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, have said in the past. During the April 13 coronavirus task force press briefing, Trump was asked if he and Fauci were “on the same page.” He responded: “Yeah, we have been from the beginning.” At the same press briefing, Fauci discussed how responsive Trump was to the recommendations made by the task force. After discussing the recommendations they made regarding mitigation, Fauci mentioned: “The travel [restriction] was another recommendation, when we went in and said, ‘We probably should be doing that.’ And the answer was ‘yes.’ And then another time was, ‘We should do it with Europe,’ and the answer was ‘yes.’ And the next time, ‘We should do it with the U.K.,’ and the answer was ‘yes.’”

While Fauci said in the earlier stages of the pandemic that a China travel ban was “not something that I think we're even considering,” according to New York Times interviews with White House aides and Fauci himself, by January 30 the leading public health officials in the federal government were recommending travel restrictions with China to President Trump. Aides also told the Wall Street Journal that it was Fauci, CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield, and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar that convinced the initially- skeptical Trump to make the decision. Azar’s explanation of the decision echoes this reporting, as he said the travel restrictions were implemented based on “the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.”

Fauci supported the travel restrictions with China publicly as well. At the task force press briefing on the day the restrictions were announced, Fauci said that “because there are so many unknowns here, we’re going to take the action that the secretary will describe [restricting travel from China], in a temporary way, to make sure we mitigate, as best as we possibly can, this risk.”

On February 3, the day after the restrictions took effect, Fauci appeared on CNBC and stated: “As the entry into the United States of potentially infected people is diminished because of the travel restrictions on both sides, of getting out of China and getting into the United States, I think you are going to see a dampening down of [coronavirus cases in the United States]. And that’s the reason why this was done: to protect Americans from travel-related cases.”

On February 7, Fauci told reporters that the positives of travel restrictions with China outweigh the negatives and that “this decision was not made lightly.”

During the February 29 coronavirus task force press briefing, Fauci repeated how valuable he saw the travel restrictions: “We prevented travel from China to the United States. If we had not done that, we would have had many, many more cases right here that we would have to be dealing with.” (The restrictions didn’t actually prevent all travel from China; they merely restricted it.)

On March 15, Fauci said, “The president's decision to essentially have a major blocking of travel from China, that already had an effect of not seeding the way, in Europe—Italy didn't do that.” The next week, on March 22, Fauci said the United States was “not necessarily at all” on the same trajectory for coronavirus cases as Italy, citing Italy’s decision not to “shut out as well the input of infections that originated in China” early on as a possible reason the country was hit particularly hard.

Fauci has consistently agreed with the travel decision. Indeed, a wide variety of reporting and his public statements make clear he was an early advocate for such restrictions in internal government coronavirus discussions. Based on all available information, Trump was not accurate to say that Fauci criticized the president’s decision to restrict travel with China.

https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/...ee-with-trumps

SunnySide · 07-15-2020, 11:03 AM

Trump and the WH can go fuck themselves.

Gameplan:

1. Deny (well go form 15 to 0 cases)
2. Divert (blame China, China China .. keep saying China)
3. Downplay (same as flu)
4. Discredit (attack Dr. Fauci bc he doesnt follow the WH narrative)

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This narrative that the WH has been pushing the last few weeks to attack and discredit Fauci is embarrassing.

Worry about the Country and the people ... not your re-election. Ironically, if Trump had led by doing whats the best for the Country and not best for him .. he wouldnt be in this mess campaign wise and would probably be much better in polling.

Chico23231 · 07-15-2020, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

That would work better with DeSantis

Naw...watching the garbage media ball washing of Cuomo is simply amazing. Now he is running his mouth trying to gaslight everybody. His policies...nursing home, waiting to clean mass transit sometime in mid April, kids in school longer than national avg../

Then there is the 32k deaths...

MTK · 07-15-2020, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Naw...watching the garbage media ball washing of Cuomo is simply amazing. Now he is running his mouth trying to gaslight everybody. His policies...nursing home, waiting to clean mass transit sometime in mid April, kids in school longer than national avg../

Then there is the 32k deaths...

And yet NY right now is under control, opening back up, while Florida has 20% of all the cases in the US right now and keeps setting records almost daily, all this after DeSantis took his victory lap back in May like a buffoon. It's clear who the clown is right now.

MTK · 07-15-2020, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Trump and the WH can go fuck themselves.

Gameplan:

1. Deny (well go form 15 to 0 cases)
2. Divert (blame China, China China .. keep saying China)
3. Downplay (same as flu)
4. Discredit (attack Dr. Fauci bc he doesnt follow the WH narrative)

-------------------

This narrative that the WH has been pushing the last few weeks to attack and discredit Fauci is embarrassing.

Worry about the Country and the people ... not your re-election. Ironically, if Trump had led by doing whats the best for the Country and not best for him .. he wouldnt be in this mess campaign wise and would probably be much better in polling.

Turning on Fauci just might be the single biggest mistake this WH can do for their re-election chances in Nov.

sdskinsfan2001 · 07-15-2020, 12:14 PM

Trump is going to have to absolutely crush Biden in the debates to have a chance at winning reelection. The cumulative effects of all the things going on are wearing on even myself. My voter enthusiasm is draining drastically. Can't imagine how it is for moderate republicans.

Note - Biden is moving way to the left and will be absolutely terrible for the country. But that doesn't mean he can't win.

SunnySide · 07-15-2020, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTK

Turning on Fauci just might be the single biggest mistake this WH can do for their re-election chances in Nov.

Thats why I think they are using other sources like navarro and aides to get the narrative out and not trying to have it come form Trump, because americans generally like Fauci. Even though trump cant help himself sometimes.

-2 months ago it was reported the the WH wanted to fire Fauci.

-WH mocks the hysterical liberal media as another hoax story

- WH instead just sidelines Fauci

- Fauci says he hasnt briefed Trump in over 2 months, is pessimistic on the NFL opening, says some regions opened up too fast and didnt follow CDC guidelines, could reach 100k new cases a day, re-opening schools depends on the region

- WH begins its full frontal attack on Fauci the past week or so

MTK · 07-15-2020, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Thats why I think they are using other sources like navarro and aides to get the narrative out and not trying to have it come form Trump, because americans generally like Fauci. Even though trump cant help himself sometimes.

-2 months ago it was reported the the WH wanted to fire Fauci.

-WH mocks the hysterical liberal media as another hoax story

- WH instead just sidelines Fauci

- Fauci says he hasnt briefed Trump in over 2 months, is pessimistic on the NFL opening, says some regions opened up too fast and didnt follow CDC guidelines, could reach 100k new cases a day, re-opening schools depends on the region

- WH begins its full frontal attack on Fauci the past week or so

Fucking WH playing games while the country is in crisis. Shit could get a lot worse too.

mooby · 07-15-2020, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTK

Mission Accomplished!

All it needs is a meme of Trump as Rocky knocking out COVID as Drago.

httr198020 · 07-15-2020, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTK

Turning on Fauci just might be the single biggest mistake this WH can do for their re-election chances in Nov.

Your post proves that people in this forum are beyond stupid. Dr. Fauci has been wrong about practically everything from the beginning. So how is pointing that out bad for Trump's re-election?

Giantone · 07-15-2020, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Trump is going to have to absolutely crush Biden in the debates to have a chance at winning reelection. The cumulative effects of all the things going on are wearing on even myself. My voter enthusiasm is draining drastically. Can't imagine how it is for moderate republicans.

Note - Biden is moving way to the left and will be absolutely terrible for the country. But that doesn't mean he can't win.

No one is worse than trump.

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SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Coronavirus (political) White House trade adviser Peter Navarro tore into Dr. Anthony Fauci in a stunning op-ed on Wednesday, saying the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director, who has been a leading voice on the Coronavirus Task Force, has been “wrong about everything.” “Dr. Anthony Fauci has a good bedside manner with the public, but he has been wrong about everything I have interacted with him on,” Navarro wrote in a blistering op-ed for USA Today. Navarro began by saying that Fauci “fought against” Trump’s “courageous decision” in late January to suspend flights from China as the novel coronavirus began to spread, arguing that that decision “might well have saved hundreds of thousands of American lives.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tra...out-everything The president’s comments contradict what both he and Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, have said in the past. During the April 13 coronavirus task force press briefing, Trump was asked if he and Fauci were “on the same page.” He responded: “Yeah, we have been from the beginning.” At the same press briefing, Fauci discussed how responsive Trump was to the recommendations made by the task force. After discussing the recommendations they made regarding mitigation, Fauci mentioned: “The travel [restriction] was another recommendation, when we went in and said, ‘We probably should be doing that.’ And the answer was ‘yes.’ And then another time was, ‘We should do it with Europe,’ and the answer was ‘yes.’ And the next time, ‘We should do it with the U.K.,’ and the answer was ‘yes.’” While Fauci said in the earlier stages of the pandemic that a China travel ban was “not something that I think we're even considering,” according to New York Times interviews with White House aides and Fauci himself, by January 30 the leading public health officials in the federal government were recommending travel restrictions with China to President Trump. Aides also told the Wall Street Journal that it was Fauci, CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield, and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar that convinced the initially- skeptical Trump to make the decision. Azar’s explanation of the decision echoes this reporting, as he said the travel restrictions were implemented based on “the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.” Fauci supported the travel restrictions with China publicly as well. At the task force press briefing on the day the restrictions were announced, Fauci said that “because there are so many unknowns here, we’re going to take the action that the secretary will describe [restricting travel from China], in a temporary way, to make sure we mitigate, as best as we possibly can, this risk.” On February 3, the day after the restrictions took effect, Fauci appeared on CNBC and stated: “As the entry into the United States of potentially infected people is diminished because of the travel restrictions on both sides, of getting out of China and getting into the United States, I think you are going to see a dampening down of [coronavirus cases in the United States]. And that’s the reason why this was done: to protect Americans from travel-related cases.” On February 7, Fauci told reporters that the positives of travel restrictions with China outweigh the negatives and that “this decision was not made lightly.” During the February 29 coronavirus task force press briefing, Fauci repeated how valuable he saw the travel restrictions: “We prevented travel from China to the United States. If we had not done that, we would have had many, many more cases right here that we would have to be dealing with.” (The restrictions didn’t actually prevent all travel from China; they merely restricted it.) On March 15, Fauci said, “The president's decision to essentially have a major blocking of travel from China, that already had an effect of not seeding the way, in Europe—Italy didn't do that.” The next week, on March 22, Fauci said the United States was “not necessarily at all” on the same trajectory for coronavirus cases as Italy, citing Italy’s decision not to “shut out as well the input of infections that originated in China” early on as a possible reason the country was hit particularly hard. Fauci has consistently agreed with the travel decision. Indeed, a wide variety of reporting and his public statements make clear he was an early advocate for such restrictions in internal government coronavirus discussions. Based on all available information, Trump was not accurate to say that Fauci criticized the president’s decision to restrict travel with China. https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/...ee-with-trumps __________________ 19,937 car accidents a day in the US. Buy a dash camera for everyone you love. Insurance companies are increasingly denying claims.

07-15-2020, 11:03 AM	#576
SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Coronavirus (political) Trump and the WH can go fuck themselves. Gameplan: 1. Deny (well go form 15 to 0 cases) 2. Divert (blame China, China China .. keep saying China) 3. Downplay (same as flu) 4. Discredit (attack Dr. Fauci bc he doesnt follow the WH narrative) ------------------- This narrative that the WH has been pushing the last few weeks to attack and discredit Fauci is embarrassing. Worry about the Country and the people ... not your re-election. Ironically, if Trump had led by doing whats the best for the Country and not best for him .. he wouldnt be in this mess campaign wise and would probably be much better in polling. __________________ 19,937 car accidents a day in the US. Buy a dash camera for everyone you love. Insurance companies are increasingly denying claims.

07-15-2020, 12:14 PM	#580
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 19,920	Re: Coronavirus (political) Trump is going to have to absolutely crush Biden in the debates to have a chance at winning reelection. The cumulative effects of all the things going on are wearing on even myself. My voter enthusiasm is draining drastically. Can't imagine how it is for moderate republicans. Note - Biden is moving way to the left and will be absolutely terrible for the country. But that doesn't mean he can't win. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

Coronavirus (political)

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