BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Jerry Reese is one of best young GM's out there, if they are blaming him for the Giants woes this year, then those people don't know squat. The Giants problems this year are due to major injuries, especially in the secondary and on the LB positions.

Hey don't shoot the messenger. I read it on ESPN Insider. Even though like many things posted there it's a stretch. For example they have a link to a reporter in Detroit suggesting that the Lions would do well to trade Megatron (Calvin Johnson). Of course the title for the entry says "Megatron on the block?" which to me suggest upon reading that the Lions are considering trading Calvin, but as it turns out it's nothing more then a hypothetical scenario posed by a beat writer. ESPN Insider has a lot of decent stuff in their rumor mill but at the same time some of the stuff is on par with PFT.

[mooby]

Heard the news on Elliot in the Morning this morning and it caught me completely by suprise.

The first thing that popped into my head was an old saying that i'm about to butcher along the lines of, "once people get what they've wanted forever, sometimes they don't know what to do with it."

What I mean by that is, now that we the fans have gotten what we've wanted for so long, how will we adjust if the Bruce Allen era doesn't go any better, or perhaps even worse, than Cerrato's tenure? Will Bruce Allen get a pass even if he doesn't work any better than Cerrato did, just because he might not've done anything as remotely stupid as Cerrato might've done?

For me, here's to a long and successfull tenure of Bruce Allen/whatever coach he wants to hire. May he fare much better than his predecessor.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Hey don't shoot the messenger. I read it on ESPN Insider. Even though like many things posted there it's a stretch. For example they have a link to a reporter in Detroit suggesting that the Lions would do well to trade Megatron (Calvin Johnson). Of course the title for the entry says "Megatron on the block?" which to me suggest upon reading that the Lions are considering trading Calvin, but as it turns out it's nothing more then a hypothetical scenario posed by a beat writer. ESPN Insider has a lot of decent stuff in their rumor mill but at the same time some of the stuff is on par with PFT.

I didn't mean you, the NY writers or whoever posted that article. Maybe they sure hire Vinny

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I didn't mean you, the NY writers or whoever posted that article. Maybe they sure hire Vinny

I know, it really is premature to suggest that Jerry Reese would be on the outs . Especially with an organization as stable as New York. I mean for goodness sake they didn't even fire Coughlin when the fan base was calling for his head. Then again we can't always hope that Cerrato charms the New York Brass.

Vinny: Listen John, Steve, remember when you won the Super Bowl with Plaxico Burress on your team? Well thats what the Giants need to get back to. Imagine this, 2 Plaxico Burresses!!!

John Mara: But Vinny we already have a good receiving core. Possibly the best up and coming one in the league.

Vinny: John John John, you can never have to many recievers. I remember when I was Executive Vice President of Football Operations, or EVPFO for short................

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

One more thing, until Gruden removes all doubt and releases a statement saying he's not interested, not in the running, and hasn't been contacted, he's a candidate in my opinion.

Gruden could end the speculation very easily. His silence speaks volumes.

Seems like Gruden hasn't removed any speculation about the chance of coming here.

Gruden commented on Allen's hiring today in a statement released by ESPN:

"Bruce Allen is a great football mind and an even better person. His background and understanding of the Washington Redskins' tradition will be a huge asset to the Redskins. He is a leader and a great fit for this job. He's a big reason why I had any success in coaching. I'm really happy for him and I wish him the best."

Gruden and Allen also worked together in Oakland. But Gruden signed a contract extension with ESPN last month. He said at the time that he'll "probably" coach again, but he said he's enjoying his role as a Monday Night Football analyst.

"It's nice to be wanted," Gruden said of his relationship with ESPN. Gruden and Allen will get a chance to renew acquaintances soon: The Redskins host the Giants on Monday night. -- Sean Leahy

[Lotus]

Interviewed on NFL Network, Allen said,
"The burgundy and gold are special..."
"...those darn Dallas Cowboys..."

I love the Redskin pride! The first coming of Allen had us in contention almost every year...I hope that the Second Coming of Allen does the same.

[Dirtbag59]

This is a repost from another thread:

You'll probably see me say this a lot over the next few weeks but Bruce Allen has a reputation for drafting OL early and often, especially when he was in Tampa with Gruden.

Heres a few guys that have been drafted early by Allen. First when he was a Senior Executive in Oakland and then as a GM in Tampa

1997:
3rd Round
72 Oakland Raiders Adam Treu Nebraska
85 Oakland Raiders Tim Kohn Offensive guard Iowa State

1998:
1st Round:
23 Oakland Raiders (from Tampa Bay Buccaneers) Mo Collins Offensive Tackle Florida
2nd Round:
31 Oakland Raiders Leon Bender Offensive Tackle Washington State
4th Round:
109 Oakland Raiders (from Washington) Gennaro DiNapoli Offensive Guard Virginia Tech
5th Round:
152 Oakland Raiders (from Green Bay) Travian Smith Offensive Tackle Oklahoma

1999:
1st Round:
18 Oakland Raiders Matt Stinchcomb Tackle Georgia

2002:
2nd Round:
53 Oakland Raiders (from Tampa Bay) Langston Walker Guard California

2004:
5th Round
146 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeb Terry Guard North Carolina

2005:
3rd Round:
91 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from San Diego) Chris Colmer Offensive Tackle NC State
4th Round:
107 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dan Buenning Offensive Guard Wisconsin

2006:
1st Round:
23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Davin Joseph Guard Oklahoma
2nd Round:
59 Tampa Bay Jeremy Trueblood Offensive Tackle Boston College

2007:
2nd Round:
35 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Arron Sears Offensive Tackle Tennessee

2008:
3rd Round:
83 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeremy Zuttah Offensive guard Rutgers

[GridIron26]

^ Wow he definitely always overloads offense linemen.. Given our history w/ injuries and such, it might be good thing..

[CRedskinsRule]

Question: When we win the SB next year Will anyone say - yes but he won it with the team Cerrato built?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Perhaps I was wrong...

NFL.com Blogs Jason La Canfora «

Redskins hiring Allen first move towards Shanahan?
I continue to hear from multiple league sources that Mike Shanahan remains the most likely choice to take over as the Washington Redskins’ head coach in 2010, and the hiring of Bruce Allen is but one move in an organizational overhaul...

...The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome’s top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins’ quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel.

Snyder also has been impressed with the work of Morocco Brown, in his first season as Washington’s director of pro personnel, and he could be someone to remain in a revamped front office...

...Many will look at Allen’s hiring as a sign that Gruden could reunite with him in Washington, but multiple sources continue to tell me that Gruden will not coach until at least the 2011 season and is loving his job as an analyst on Monday Night Football. He signed an extension with ESPN, which I am told is ironclad for 2010 in terms of leaving, even for a coaching or “dream job” gig.

“There is a zero percent chance that Jon coaches anywhere next year,” said a source close to the coach...

...Snyder thinks highly of several member of the staff, including defensive coordinator Greg Blache, who has seriously considered retirement in recent years, and secondary coach Jerry Gray, who was viewed as a possible successor to Blache (Snyder blocked Gray from interviewing to be the Houston Texans’ defensive coordinator during the offseason)...

...Allen’s hiring is a strong first step, but there is much more to come as the Redskins try once again to reclaim their glory and emerge from a long malaise.

My main gripe with the hiring of Allen has been his complete lack of accumen in the personnel department and history as being nothing more than a yes-man in personnel-issues. In light of this report, Allen may not be too involved in those issues after all. This would seem to make sense, in light of his and Snyders cryptic comments on the issue during the press conference today.

If JLC's sources are correct and hiring Allen is just the first step, and we bring in DeCosta to handle personnel matters, hire Shanahan to coach the team and run the offense, and retain Jerry Gray as DC, I will do a backflip. There's not much more Snyder could to make me happy.

[rypper11]

Bruce F%^&#&^% Allen. Thank you Danny.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Bruce F%^&#&^% Allen. Thank you Danny.

So I take it you are one of the 3?

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Question: When we win the SB next year Will anyone say - yes but he won it with the team Cerrato built?

No, because in all likelihood we will draft some lineman. If our offense gets better instantly then everyone on here will think they have what it takes to GM the redskins.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Question: When we win the SB next year Will anyone say - yes but he won it with the team Cerrato built?

I look forward to that problem.

To me the biggest issue here is not whether Allen (or Vinny for that matter) is the person to lead the team. The biggest issue is that we have overhauled the organizational structure. Even if Allen fails, presumably we will bring in another real GM and continue to have a real FO structure.

Thank you Snyder!

[doughtydoubter]

thanks danny