Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Defenses are going to want to tee off on RG3 no matter what. Comparing getting hit on running a play vs. a kneel down seems a bit ridiculous to me.

sure that is a bit ridiculous.

However, I think its fair to criticize the amount of designed runs and options Kyle is calling. Regardless of how bad the replacement refs are with missing roughings, a QB is fair game in runs and options. I've thought it was an issue from game 1.

Coaches have full control over playcalling, they do not have control over the ref situation.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Macho Man Randy Savage

Robert Griffin! Don't think you're sneaking into Tampa!!! Yeeeeah. There won't beeee NO Hot Doggin' Itttt!!! ** Shakes Finger ** The Macho Man will be dropping that Elbow for the 3!

OOOOOOOoooooooohhhhhh Yeeeeeaaaaah!!!!

Is it true you get all the free slim jims you can eat?

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

The actual points produced by the offense say different.

Empty stats.

[aircoryell]

Originally Posted by Macho Man Randy Savage

Robert Griffin! Don't think you're sneaking into Tampa!!! Yeeeeah. There won't beeee NO Hot Doggin' Itttt!!! ** Shakes Finger ** The Macho Man will be dropping that Elbow for the 3!

OOOOOOOoooooooohhhhhh Yeeeeeaaaaah!!!!

Next time you decide to troll a board at least pick someone who is still alive. BTW this is what he looked like a few months before he kicked the bucket. Very intimidating....

[aircoryell]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Empty stats.

Points are empty? Please enlighten me!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by aircoryell

Next time you decide to troll a board at least pick someone who is still alive. BTW this is what he looked like a few months before he kicked the bucket. Very intimidating....

I know someone who was banging his girlfriend when he was still alive.

[Carl Nicks]

Originally Posted by aircoryell

Next time you decide to troll a board at least pick someone who is still alive. BTW this is what he looked like a few months before he kicked the bucket. Very intimidating....

Odd angle for the picture, honestly. With the back of his head all blurry and his hair arranged like that, he kinda looks like a girl :/

And who is the old dude, a pirate? Hahahaha! He needs a parrot and an eyepatch or something! hahahahahaha

awww, old people are funny

[Macho Man Randy Savage]

Dan Orlovski is a comin'! He's going to drop an Orlovski clothesline on Shanahan, this Sunday... Yeeeeah! Score will be 65-3, Tampa Wiiiiiiiiinnnnsss! Ooooooooohhhh Yeeeeeeaaaaaah!!!!

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by aircoryell

To me, this post reeks of misdirected frustration. This is not a "gimmick" offense as you put it. And there is absolutely no evidence to substantiate your conclusion that it has no chance for "continued success". On the contrary, everything points to exactly the opposite.
What you're suggesting is to put Robert in a pro style offense under center (In Baylor he took ZERO snaps under center) and magically all those hits he's taking will go away. Did you watch the Rex and Beck take a pounding last year?
How you came to the conclusion that Kyle showed "ineptitude" is beyond me since you failed to explain that. In one sentence you call the offensive line a joke, and immediately take a shot at Kyle on the next one for running an offense to minimize it's exposure. :confused:
Kyle, in my opinion, is doing a masterful job helping Robert transition from his Baylor offense into a pro style offense. Letting him have some time under center while still running what he feels comfortable with to keep the points coming on the board.
Kyle has never been, is, or will be the problem. We've scored 30 points the last 3 games and are the 2nd ranked offense in the entire league for gods sake! If you think Kyle is the issue you are completely way off base.

You and some others who post here just don't get it when it comes to exposing RGIII to a pounding in run option offense. So I'm going to try to educate you about the major points that I think jdc65 was trying to make.

Point 1: RGIII is by far the most important player on this team for the future, not necessarily the present, of this franchise.

Point 2: RGIII must be protected as much as possible from a serious, possibly career threatening or career limiting injury because of his extraordinary value to the future of this franchise.

If I were in Dan Snyder's shoes, I would make an exception in the case of RGIII and I would "interfere" with Mike Shanahan's coaching decision to use RGIII in a run-oriented offense. I would tell him to cut it out. There is no way I would let Shanahan risk the future of my franchise in trying to beat the Bengals or any other team this season. Shanahan would simply need to find another way to win or I would fire him. That's how strongly I feel about this issue.

Surely, you must realize that, in defending the run option that a defender is always assigned to tackle the QB. Only the Skins opponents are not just trying to bring down RGIII - they are trying to crush him, to punish him as much as they possibly can. It is only a matter of time before RGIII is seriously hurt when running these types of plays. This is not Baylor. It is the NFL, where the big boys play.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Carl Nicks

Touche.

We're expecting Freeman to finally put it together this week and have a great game through the air. This is the same thing we say after every game.

With Orakpo out, who does your pass rushing? I wonder if Shenanigans will send all 7 DBs at me. I wonder if he'll cry when they still don't get to Josh.

I know I'll cry when Josh throws an incompletion despite all that.

Don't underestimate the Redskins defense. There's a reason that the Redskins are beating themselves defensively. Once the Redskins coaches figure out why this is happening, our defense will play better because until now, this hasn't been happening.

Ryan Kerrigan compliments Orakpo. So does Fletcher or Riley. If you know anything about the 3-4 defense, you would know that the pass rush could come from anywhere.

[Macho Man Randy Savage]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

If you know anything about the 3-4 defense, you would know that the pass rush could come from anywhere.

If you knew anything about Carl Nicks, you would know he is everywhere! Ooooooh Yeeeah! Go Bucs! Carl Nicks blocks out the sun, yeah!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You and some others who post here just don't get it when it comes to exposing RGIII to a pounding in run option offense. So I'm going to try to educate you about the major points that I think jdc65 was trying to make.

Point 1: RGIII is by far the most important player on this team for the future, not necessarily the present, of this franchise.

Point 2: RGIII must be protected as much as possible from a serious, possibly career threatening or career limiting injury because of his extraordinary value to the future of this franchise.

If I were in Dan Snyder's shoes, I would make an exception in the case of RGIII and I would "interfere" with Mike Shanahan's coaching decision to use RGIII in a run-oriented offense. I would tell him to cut it out. There is no way I would let Shanahan risk the future of my franchise in trying to beat the Bengals or any other team this season. Shanahan would simply need to find another way to win or I would fire him. That's how strongly I feel about this issue.

Surely, you must realize that, in defending the run option that a defender is always assigned to tackle the QB. Only the Skins opponents are not just trying to bring down RGIII - they are trying to crush him, to punish him as much as they possibly can. It is only a matter of time before RGIII is seriously hurt when running these types of plays. This is not Baylor. It is the NFL, where the big boys play.

Excellent post KI. It's like folks were either too young or just didn't watch football when Vick was a Falcon. No starting caliber NFL QB can take the kind of pounding RG3 has so far. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a slight concussion from yesterday's game.

In three seasons the Shanahans have been patently unable to generate points with a conventional offense. Now they're risking the franchise QB to cover that fact. It's extremely shortsighted, and frankly irresponsible. I don't think Danny's so dumb he'll let it go on.

[los panda]

where was aldrick?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

where was aldrick?

I think the receivers are taking turns on gameday as to which of them is really going to hustle and try to get open or make a play.

[CRedskinsRule]

I could be completely wrong, but I imagine that the Shanahans are using the current form for several reasons:

1) as SS said, it helps Griffin transition to a pro offense, and still be on the field.

2) it has it's merits when run occasionally simply to keep the defense playing honest against the whole field. Something Shanny Sr has always preached.

3) and this is the jedi mind trick part, Griffin is learning the value of not getting hit. Now maybe I am overthinking, nah, I am definitely overthinking! but hear me out. When Griffin comes into the league, a guy with his speed is probably thinking yeah, it's the NFL, but it's easy. While I like the cockiness, that type of thinking will doom him in the long run. He even had said as much after the first preseason game. Now, with the hits he's taken (and I tend to think some here are overblowing it, cause a qb can take that fatal shot anywhere on the field (ask Joe Thiesmann)) maybe when the coaches say we want to move away from the option, he's thinking I can dig that, and pushes harder to perfecting his "NFL style" qb style.

4) Overall, while there have been a few kill shots, Griffin also seems to do a good to great job of positioning his body in preparation for the shot. So while I am sure he is hurting after a game, I doubt it's that much more than if he sat back and the D's just popped him