Republican nominee for President

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In the 18 months of the FBI's most recent statistical compilation ( 1/14 - 6/15) the murder rate is up:

~10% in cities with over 1,000,000 population.
~12% in cities between 500K - 999K
~8% in cities of 250K-499K
~17% in cities of less than 10K


but you're probably right, I am certain the last year has reversed that trend.

Deadliest year in Baltimore history ends with 344 homicides - Baltimore Sun

... or, then again, maybe not.

Baltimore is currently at 164 murders - which is on pace to surpass 300 by the end of the year. In all of 2014, the number was 211.
Baltimore Homicides - baltimoresun.com

All true...but over the last 20 years crime has dropped. But the pockets of violence remain mostly in liberal dominated cities of Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago with a history of dem policies and poverty pimps within the communities and local governments. Billions of tax dollars have been squandered.

That's why the gun control argument has zero validity...we aren't a crime ridden country, we are just a country who constantly over sensationalize specific events like mass shootings. It's not the availability of guns, buts it's the over coverage of the event.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I will add that I guess if the democratic party's argument is "hey its ok cuz only 350 of you in Baltimore have to die this year so stop your bellyaching " Well doesn't seem like a winning argument to me but go ahead and use it . I tend to think we ought to be striving for better and that EVERY American ought not to have a problem acknowledging the fact that thousands of inner city lives are lost across this country each year and we have to work together to reduce and try to end the violence.

So back to the initial statement, in my opinion, Its not fear mongering to say inner city lives matter equally to those in suburbia and rural America. Its just the truth. Sorry if you don't believe it.

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Not sure how we got this far down the rabbit hole. I was just tossing out the point his speech was filled with a lot of fear mongering, which it was and plenty of news outlets are making the same point this morning.

And I refuted the fact that we aren't safer now than we were 4 or 8 years ago, sorry but the overall numbers support that. Violent crime has been on the decline since 91 and an occasional uptick does not mean we're in a death spiral. I certainly never discounted the fact violence is a major issue in some places or said that everything is fine and dandy. But again, big picture violent crime has been tending down for quite some time.

Trump painted a very dark picture last night and as usual used a very broad brush. He's tapped into people's fears very well... fear of crime, terrorism, immigrants, etc. And of course he has all the answers to fix it.

Sadly there are a lot of small minded people out there eating this up hook line and sinker.

[Chico23231]

fear mongering and bleak outlook usually doesn't win elections. The Dems will jump all over this and exploit it. I think there is strong advantage to having the 2nd convention.

I think generally people in the country are not happy with where the country is going but Trump isn't giving them a vision for an alternative.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

All true...but over the last 20 years crime has dropped. But the pockets of violence remain mostly in liberal dominated cities of Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago with a history of dem policies and poverty pimps within the communities and local governments. Billions of tax dollars have been squandered.

That's why the gun control argument has zero validity...we aren't a crime ridden country, we are just a country who constantly over sensationalize specific events like mass shootings. It's not the availability of guns, buts it's the over coverage of the event.

It would be difficult to imagine...Who, if asked in this world feels safer than they did even a couple years ago....
Certainly nobody in the western world. To many things blowing up...
Check that.....hmmmmm, maybe like in Syria? THEY might feel safer? All their top shelf terrorists are probably committed in other parts of the world...blowing them up? Right?
Or...maybe they're just to damned tired to blow up Syria from having to blow up the rest of the world?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Hog1

It would be difficult to imagine...Who, if asked in this world feels safer than they did even a couple years ago....
Certainly nobody in the western world. To many things blowing up...
Check that.....hmmmmm, maybe like in Syria? THEY might feel safer? All their top shelf terrorists are probably committed in other parts of the world...blowing them up? Right?
Or...maybe they're just to damned tired to blow up Syria from having to blow up the rest of the world?

Across the world is literally on fire. I would not step foot in South America, central America, Africa, Middle East, most parts of Asia, Russia, Ex Soviet bloc and even some parts of Europe.

Obama, Hillary, Kerry, and the State Department are 100% responsible for most of it.

Everyday be thankful to wake up in the United States.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Not sure how we got this far down the rabbit hole. I was just tossing out the point his speech was filled with a lot of fear mongering, which it was and plenty of news outlets are making the same point this morning.

And I refuted the fact that we aren't safer now than we were 4 or 8 years ago, sorry but the overall numbers support that. Violent crime has been on the decline since 91 and an occasional uptick does not mean we're in a death spiral. I certainly never discounted the fact violence is a major issue in some places or said that everything is fine and dandy. But again, big picture violent crime has been tending down for quite some time.

Trump painted a very dark picture last night and as usual used a very broad brush. He's tapped into people's fears very well... fear of crime, terrorism, immigrants, etc. And of course he has all the answers to fix it.

Sadly there are a lot of small minded people out there eating this up hook line and sinker.

lol at the small minded comment.

as for the rabbit hole, admittedly i wrote it at 2 am after waking up from a 1 hour sleep.

I really don't think it was a dark picture if you listened to the whole speech, I think he outlined problems that most sane people acknowledge. We have issues with violence, we have issues with foreign powers, we have issues nearly across the board.

Trump, generally would as a president, most likely set a record for most independent commissions ever formed. I tend to think they would be bipartisan/inclusive, but I may give him to much credit for that. I doubt Hillary will in her 1 hour 15 minute speech outline every single way that her administration would solve each problem, but I do think that the first step in any repair of our country's issues is outlining the candidate's concept of the problem.

I agree with Trump's basic outline of the problems our next president should focus on far more then what I expect Clinton will outline.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Hog1

It would be difficult to imagine...Who, if asked in this world feels safer than they did even a couple years ago....
Certainly nobody in the western world. To many things blowing up...
Check that.....hmmmmm, maybe like in Syria? THEY might feel safer? All their top shelf terrorists are probably committed in other parts of the world...blowing them up? Right?
Or...maybe they're just to damned tired to blow up Syria from having to blow up the rest of the world?

Munich shooting: Several killed at shopping mall, report says - CNN.com

You don't have to go to Syria to get blown up, the terrorist these days make house calls. This shit has to end. We've allowed Syria/Iraq to become a staging grounds for terrorist attacks across the world.

[dmek25]

we have? im tired of being the worlds biggest police. why do we pick and choose these half assed middle east countries to throw our support to, when the likes of boko haram present probably the biggest threat to man gets nary a mention in congress? let some of these idiot countries, with crazy ideology, stand up for themselves.

[CRedskinsRule]

Well when Trump mentions boko haran in his speech last night its fear mongering or Hillary bashing.

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by dmek25

we have? im tired of being the worlds biggest police. why do we pick and choose these half assed middle east countries to throw our support to, when the likes of boko haram present probably the biggest threat to man gets nary a mention in congress? let some of these idiot countries, with crazy ideology, stand up for themselves.

America First, right?

[NC_Skins]

Some of a manure droppings spouted the past few pages has me like


I think Matty has already covered the facts about violence (especially murder) has been declining the past 2 decades. The pure numbers show that. Here, take it from the FBI.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-1


The reason why it appears we have a violence problem is because that's what your regular corporate media continues to broadcast. Media and the government have found out a while ago that fear is a powerful aid in getting people to do things against their own interests and to sell shit. What's their aim? They want to continue with the military industry and gun supplying so what better way than to drum up fear about violence, terrorism, and gun control. The record amount of guns sold during Obama's 8 years is staggering. All because media and politicians fear monger people that they'll be losing their guns. Notice the conservative media and how they portray everything. It's always a "war on christianity"...."war on christmas"......"war on guns"....."war on free speech". Constant fear mongering and these idiots bite into it every single time. A lot of it has to do with the lack of education quite frankly and the mere mentality that's been drilled into their heads since birth.

You want to know how to bring some of that violence in inner cities down? Fix income inequality and help those people get out of poverty. As long as poverty continues to be a huge issue in America, the longer violence and murder are a mainstay in these inner cities. It's a direct correlation between poverty and violence. Nobody is saying give these people free money. No. Give these people a real chance to get themselves out with real wages and real benefits. Most of the people in poverty certainly don't want to be there. (regardless of what your shitty ass media pundits/racists/bigots tell you)

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Munich shooting: Several killed at shopping mall, report says - CNN.com

You don't have to go to Syria to get blown up, the terrorist these days make house calls. This shit has to end. We've allowed Syria/Iraq to become a staging grounds for terrorist attacks across the world.

Well if only Germany had tougher gun laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_le...ion_in_Germany

It does seem like I have personal anecdotes a lot of times, but I was an MP in Germany in the early 90's, and trust me you didn't want to have the Polizei finding weapons around you. We, the US Army Military Police, were not allowed to keep our weapon's loaded even on patrol.

But, we are safer now.

[NC_Skins]

One more point of note about the RNC this week. I certainly think that Ted Cruz just committed political suicide in front of the entire nation. By being petty and not endorsing Trump (purely on personal reasons), he told the entire GOP and most likely Trump voters in November to get bent. There was a reason he was booed off the stage and people were wanting to fight him later that night.

Defiant Ted Cruz stands by refusal to endorse Donald Trump after being booed during convention speech - CNNPolitics.com

On the donor suite level, people approached Cruz and insulted him, a source told CNN's Dana Bash. One state party chair reacted so angrily that they had to be restrained.
Cruz, who has long sought the support of GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson, was turned away when he tried to enter Adelson's suite.

Andy Abboud, a senior aide to the Las Vegas casino magnate, said Cruz was initially invited to come up to visit the Adelsons, but when he failed to endorse Trump the invitation was rescinded.

"When he didn't endorse, they were stunned and disappointed," Abboud told CNN.

Cruz is fucked.He'll never get anymore backing after what he did at the RNC this week. He was already a hated man, but he still had some big money backers at the time. That's gone. The main purpose of the RNC is to unite the party, yet Cruz took this time to give them all the finger and show them why he's hated so much in Washington, DC. He may still be voted in as Senator in Texas again, but his political career beyond that is toast. Ashes. Hell, judging by his facebook page, it's very likely he might even be replaced in Texas. There were many of his supporters turning on him for not endorsing Trump. It was a bold move Cotton. We'll see how it plays out.

The thing about this whole squabble between Cruz and Trump started when a super pac supporting Cruz attacked Donald Trump's wife Melania. Cruz had the opportunity to denounce it and to refuse any support from that group. No, he simply denied it and allowed it to fester until Trump hit back with the upper cuts. Cruz has been deplorable this election cycle with the dirty tricks to Ben Carson and Trump. Fuck him.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some of a manure droppings spouted the past few pages has me like


I think Matty has already covered the facts about violence (especially murder) has been declining the past 2 decades. The pure numbers show that. Here, take it from the FBI.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-1


The reason why it appears we have a violence problem is because that's what your regular corporate media continues to broadcast. Media and the government have found out a while ago that fear is a powerful aid in getting people to do things against their own interests and to sell shit. What's their aim? They want to continue with the military industry and gun supplying so what better way than to drum up fear about violence, terrorism, and gun control. The record amount of guns sold during Obama's 8 years is staggering. All because media and politicians fear monger people that they'll be losing their guns. Notice the conservative media and how they portray everything. It's always a "war on christianity"...."war on christmas"......"war on guns"....."war on free speech". Constant fear mongering and these idiots bite into it every single time. A lot of it has to do with the lack of education quite frankly and the mere mentality that's been drilled into their heads since birth.

You want to know how to bring some of that violence in inner cities down? Fix income inequality and help those people get out of poverty. As long as poverty continues to be a huge issue in America, the longer violence and murder are a mainstay in these inner cities. It's a direct correlation between poverty and violence. Nobody is saying give these people free money. No. Give these people a real chance to get themselves out with real wages and real benefits. Most of the people in poverty certainly don't want to be there. (regardless of what your shitty ass media pundits/racists/bigots tell you)

You forgot War on Police which is certainly a thing now.

What is bolded is the key to your issues in the second paragraph. Look at the cost to educate the kid in those DEMOCRATE run cities with all the violence I listed above.

There is American tax money being spent by poverty pimps in these areas who aren't doing their job...little accountability. Teacher unions, city administrators, local clergy, social welfare programs, community service boards, after school programs, Urban Housing programs...the list goes on and on. These communities that squander my tax money. I say no more. Im tired of ineffective policies. The federal, state, and local government pump money into these areas with little return. Im tired of the complaining, its never enough. There needs to be some accountability.

All look at the most poverty ridden areas in the country...Its not a fact violence is in all impoverished communities.

[CRedskinsRule]

news and notes from today's safer world:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/l...192732759.html

Russian warplanes bombed a garrison used by US and British forces in Syria twice last month, despite being warned by a US surveillance aircraft flying nearby that the base was not occupied or being used by members of ISIS.

At least 3 dead in shooting at Munich shopping center

Police declared an "acute terrorist situation" Friday in Munich and shut down traffic and rail service in the southern German city to search for as many as three gunmen who went on a shooting rampage at a shopping mall, killing at least eight people.

Police said a ninth body was found at the scene of the attack and authorities were investigating whether it belonged to an attacker.

Homicide Watch Chicago | Mark every death. Remember every victim. Follow every case.

A 40-year-old man has been charged with the murder of Kyara Newell, who died Thursday morning after being shot while riding in a car early Wednesday in the Rogers Park neighborhood.
At 12:24 a.m. Wednesday, the 26-year-old Newell was the passenger in a vehicle driving southbound in the 2300 block of West Arthur when two males on the sidewalk nearby opened fire, authorities said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...w-study-shows/

From 1993 to 2012, the percentage of Russian elites agreeing that military force “will always ultimately decide everything in international relations” rose consistently, almost tripling from 13 percent in 1993 to 35.8 percent in 2012. That increase has continued even more dramatically, so that 52.9 percent of Russian elites now say that they believe military force is decisive. That’s a majority, for the first time.