Sweat traded to the Bears, Young to the 49ers

sdskinsfan2001 · 10-31-2023, 03:10 PM

Per John Keim:

Grade for the Commanders: A

I'm pleasantly surprised the Commanders recognized they ought to be dealing away players at the deadline rather than acquiring them, and that they chose Sweat to be the player to trade as opposed to Chase Young. In comparison to Sweat, Young appears to be a much better long-term asset. Young is almost three years younger and has a 25% pass rush win rate at edge this season, which ranks 11th-best. Not only is that three times as high as Sweat's PRWR at edge this year, but it's also significantly better than Sweat's best PRWR in any year.

By dealing Sweat now, the Commanders are gaining future resources, which they need. It also will be helpful in their negotiation with Young, who is in the last year of his rookie deal. Had they kept Sweat and Young, they would have only been able to franchise tag one of them. Now, the threat of the tag on Young is stronger, though cornerback Kendall Fuller is a pending free agent, too. Theoretically, the Commanders might have been able to let Sweat walk in free agency and gained a compensatory selection, but that pick would have been no better than a 2025 late third-rounder -- and even that would have been far from guaranteed. Washington ranks fourth in effective cap space in 2025, per Over The Cap, so it could be a big spender in free agency, thus possibly canceling out a compensatory pick.

The cherry on top here is that this is the Bears' second-round pick, so it will very likely be early in the round.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-31-2023, 03:20 PM

All great points. A move that just had to be made, and we got the best possible return.

skinsfan69 · 10-31-2023, 03:36 PM

Perhaps Ron has been already told he will not be back next year, and to go out and get as many picks as he can for the new regime.

I would trade Chase. He is never going to be a dominant player. He can feast off of scrub players but that's about it. The defense plays better w/out him.

Meks · 10-31-2023, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Perhaps Ron has been already told he will not be back next year, and to go out and get as many picks as he can for the new regime.

I would trade Chase. He is never going to be a dominant player. He can feast off of scrub players but that's about it. The defense plays better w/out him.

He's also a loaf. He quits on plays ALL THE TIME. Him quitting early almost cost us that curl strip being recovered. The guy just stops when the plays barely passes him. Time to move on, because he doesn't move enough.

Didn't like the pick when we chose him, still don't like it now. Thanks for the flash your rookie year, all your hard work to try and get back on the field and we wish you the best. It stings getting a 2nd rounder if that's the case but I'll take it.

Update. Stings even harder that it's a low 3rd round. Ouch.

skinsfan69 · 10-31-2023, 03:46 PM

And just like that Chase is gone...

KI Skins Fan · 10-31-2023, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Perhaps Ron has been already told he will not be back next year, and to go out and get as many picks as he can for the new regime.

I would trade Chase. He is never going to be a dominant player. He can feast off of scrub players but that's about it. The defense plays better w/out him.

I think your opinion of Chase's ability is a bit harsh. I believe this organization hasn't used him properly and that a new, more creative and aggressive DC could put him in position to contribute more.

I hope he stays but I'll accept it if he goes as long as the return is satisfactory.

calia · 10-31-2023, 03:48 PM

A third for Chase? Well done SF. Fuck you Ron.

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KI Skins Fan · 10-31-2023, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

A third for Chase? Well done SF. Fuck you Ron.

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A late third at that. Your post says it all.

SFREDSKIN · 10-31-2023, 03:56 PM

You know Young will live up to his status now in SF with better coaching. What a stupid fucking trade, he’s having an awesome year and gave away for nothing.

KI Skins Fan · 10-31-2023, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You know Young will live up to his status now in SF with better coaching. What a stupid fucking trade, he’s having an awesome year and gave away for nothing.

You can take that to the bank.

Meks · 10-31-2023, 04:13 PM

Can't agree by any stretch with "awesome year" but he will go have one now.

PorkSkins · 10-31-2023, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Good. We need to start the rebuild now

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With free agency, and a wise front office and solid coaching staff, a rebuilding job can be done within a season or two.

Chase Young might be a rental for San Fran. Not to mention, I sense with more money freeing up for us; we'll be active in free agency. Hopefully, ownership/ management/coaching staff play things smartly. If they do, then we'll be fine.

Ownership is getting a jump on things and using foresight as the current coaching staff is finito and likely Mayhew.

Ruhskins · 10-31-2023, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

A third for Chase? Well done SF. Fuck you Ron.

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This is all on ownership, but we need to rebuild.

PorkSkins · 10-31-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You know Young will live up to his status now in SF with better coaching. What a stupid fucking trade, he’s having an awesome year and gave away for nothing.

I preferred to keep Young, but understood the Sweat move. The ownership has my trust for now as I do like they're getting an early jump on the off-season per se'.

Meks · 10-31-2023, 04:19 PM

If anyone wants a white chase young "redskins" jersey I'm willing to part with it for a ham sandwich

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10-31-2023, 03:10 PM	#31
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 19,921	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder Per John Keim: Grade for the Commanders: A I'm pleasantly surprised the Commanders recognized they ought to be dealing away players at the deadline rather than acquiring them, and that they chose Sweat to be the player to trade as opposed to Chase Young. In comparison to Sweat, Young appears to be a much better long-term asset. Young is almost three years younger and has a 25% pass rush win rate at edge this season, which ranks 11th-best. Not only is that three times as high as Sweat's PRWR at edge this year, but it's also significantly better than Sweat's best PRWR in any year. By dealing Sweat now, the Commanders are gaining future resources, which they need. It also will be helpful in their negotiation with Young, who is in the last year of his rookie deal. Had they kept Sweat and Young, they would have only been able to franchise tag one of them. Now, the threat of the tag on Young is stronger, though cornerback Kendall Fuller is a pending free agent, too. Theoretically, the Commanders might have been able to let Sweat walk in free agency and gained a compensatory selection, but that pick would have been no better than a 2025 late third-rounder -- and even that would have been far from guaranteed. Washington ranks fourth in effective cap space in 2025, per Over The Cap, so it could be a big spender in free agency, thus possibly canceling out a compensatory pick. The cherry on top here is that this is the Bears' second-round pick, so it will very likely be early in the round. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

10-31-2023, 03:20 PM	#32
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,580	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder All great points. A move that just had to be made, and we got the best possible return.

10-31-2023, 03:36 PM	#33
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,251	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder Perhaps Ron has been already told he will not be back next year, and to go out and get as many picks as he can for the new regime. I would trade Chase. He is never going to be a dominant player. He can feast off of scrub players but that's about it. The defense plays better w/out him.

10-31-2023, 03:46 PM	#35
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,251	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder And just like that Chase is gone...

10-31-2023, 03:48 PM	#37
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 56 Posts: 3,486	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder A third for Chase? Well done SF. Fuck you Ron. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

10-31-2023, 03:56 PM	#39
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder You know Young will live up to his status now in SF with better coaching. What a stupid fucking trade, he’s having an awesome year and gave away for nothing. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-31-2023, 04:13 PM	#41
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 39 Posts: 5,555	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder Can't agree by any stretch with "awesome year" but he will go have one now. __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

10-31-2023, 04:19 PM	#45
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 39 Posts: 5,555	Re: Sweat to the bears for a 2nd rounder If anyone wants a white chase young "redskins" jersey I'm willing to part with it for a ham sandwich __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

Sweat traded to the Bears, Young to the 49ers

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