Trayvon Martin Case

[12thMan]

George Zimmerman ordered back to jail and having bond revoked for not disclosing (lying) financials and having second passport.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

George Zimmerman ordered back to jail and having bond revoked for not disclosing (lying) financials and having second passport.

Could also be titled 'Pandering to squealing minority agitators'.

Had he shown any intent to use the passport or finances?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Zimmermans web site has raised over 200 grand and I'd love to see that donation sheet. The reason I say that is you have radicals on both sides of this case and you know some radical groups have donated to Zimmermans aty fund.

U.S. News - After Zimmerman's website raises more than $200,000, prosecution asks judge to raise bond

I posted this over a month back so its not like this account with this money was new News.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Could also be titled 'Pandering to squealing minority agitators'.

Had he shown any intent to use the passport or finances?

First of all it is illegal to knowingly posses two United States passports. If you file for a replacement passport and eventually find your lost passport you are suppose to return the old one for destruction to the State Department.

Secondly, when the government takes away your passport they aren't interested in determining your future intent (nor are they able to determine it). The government, however, is interested in preventing you from leaving the country if your legal situation isn't to your liking...and when they take away your passport the expectation is that it is the only passport in your possession.

Lastly, Zimmerman was given an opportunity to disclose his financial situation to the court and he straight up lied to the court and his own lawyer. Not only that but this moron was stupid enough to talk on the phone behind bars about his second passport.


Lady Karma is a bitch and so are stupid little men behind bars.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by saden1

Lady Karma is a bitch and so are stupid little men behind bars.

You really believe in Karma? Men behind bars are bitches?

You have issues.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

You really believe in Karma? Men behind bars are bitches?

You have issues.

I do believe the universe balances itself...I also believe you are lacking something and need to work on your reading comprehension. While you are at it try doing some thought exercises too...meh, I'm probably telling you things you already know.

Free friendly advise from the ever helpful WarPath guru... I am here to help.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by saden1

I do believe the universe balances itself.

You were talking about a person, not the Universe. If Karma works how is it so many really ****ing awful people slide through life like it's a party and some really decent people get shit from day one?

Karma is for the terminally naive.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Could also be titled 'Pandering to squealing minority agitators'.

Had he shown any intent to use the passport or finances?

The intent here is lying about his finances and not disclosing the second passport. He hid details that would allow him to flee the country, that is intent in this, and any other, criminal case.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The intent here is lying about his finances and not disclosing the second passport. He hid details that would allow him to flee the country, that is intent in this, and any other, criminal case.

You're wrong, here's why:

If an accused has actually committed the full offense, the reality of the danger has been demonstrated. But, where the commission of the actus reus is in the future and the accused is merely acting in anticipation of committing the full offense at some time in the future, a clear subjective intention to cause the actus reus of the full offense must be demonstrated. Without this specific intent, there is insufficient evidence that the accused is the clear danger as feared because, at any time before the commission of the full offense, the accused may change his or her mind and not continue. Hence, this specific intent must also be demonstrated on a subjective basis.

[12thMan]

Hey RedskinRat, stop it. Zimmerman f*cking lied. Period. End of discussion. Him, his wife, and his father will, at some point, be brought up on perjury charges.

Secondly, while his lying doesn't reflect guilt of said crime he's been charged with, it's unreasonable to think even the most objective jury won't take this into consideration when weighing the evidence against him.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hey RedskinRat, stop it. Zimmerman f*cking lied. Period. End of discussion. Him, his wife, and his father will, at some point, be brought up on perjury charges.

Secondly, while his lying doesn't reflect guilt of said crime he's been charged with, it's unreasonable to think even the most objective jury won't take this into consideration when weighing the evidence against him.

Perjury charges? Unless he was under sworn oath I and testifying, I doubt they can get him with perjury charges here.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hey RedskinRat, stop it.

Stop what? Having an opinion? No.

Have you been looking at the kind of verdicts that high-profile juries come to these days? OJ to Casey Anthony to John Edwards.

People are far too emotionally charged over this, it's pathetic. Look at the facts.

[12thMan]

An unarmed teen carrying tea and skittles, on his way home, got shot in the chest and people are too emotionally charged?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Perjury charges? Unless he was under sworn oath I and testifying, I doubt they can get him with perjury charges here.

He was under oath.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

He was under oath.

You have a link to that?