Presidential Race 2024

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I know I lean lefter than most but I don't see the labeling of Harris as a progressive. The only time in her career she aligned herself with the left was her 2020 campaign. As a DA and Attorney general she said she would advocate for democracy but always ended up with more moderate and mainstream views. Jailing drug users, during the banking crisis supported banking industry and not home owners the list goes on. These were all things widely supported by mainstream politicians and not the left. After her 2020 campaign she aligned herself with Biden's moderate view and neither has really pushed for democracy for the US citizenship.

She was ranked as the most liberal/left Senator in the Senate Even more left than Sanders. Yes, she is a progressive and is seen that way by most.

[BaltimoreSkins]

That is based on cosponsoring bipartisan bills. Is that really the greatest indicator of progressiveness? You are taking a three decade career minimizing it to a 3.5 year segment in which she has espoused progressive views never really did much with them and then gave them up and gone back to being very moderate over the last four years in the administration she is serving.

We have a saying a cat can have kittens in the oven doesn't mean we call them biscuits. She isn't a biscuit.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Darrell Green Fan

The country has lost it's collective minds. Planning a fund raiser for thugs who attacked our Capitol alone should have finished any candidate in our nation's history. At one time Republicans voted to impeach Richard Nixon who did far less than Donald J. Trump, today there is literally no line he can cross. American polltics disgusts me today. Trump is threatening to jail journalists and poltical oppenents and he is leading the polls. WTF is going on here????? The rest of the world is laughing at us.

If he wins I'll have no choice but to simply tune out poltics. In all honesty my life went virtually unchanged regardless of who was the President.

Sadly you're correct, politician have always been a little slimey but some still would do the right thing when it came down to it but not now Republicans politicians are "Deplorable" people and like it that way.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

That is based on cosponsoring bipartisan bills. Is that really the greatest indicator of progressiveness? You are taking a three decade career minimizing it to a 3.5 year segment in which she has espoused progressive views never really did much with them and then gave them up and gone back to being very moderate over the last four years in the administration she is serving.

We have a saying a cat can have kittens in the oven doesn't mean we call them biscuits. She isn't a biscuit.

She's a politician, she will blow whatever way benefits her the most. If being progressive is helpful to her, then she's left of Sanders, need to be more moderate to get to be VP, ok, I'm a moderate again. She will do whatever it takes for power. And damn if it isn't working, she's very likely going to be president. Man, what a career (politicians in general). Who the hell knows what she will try to do as president, she waffles more than IHOP. It's like the ole Pelosi saying, you have to open the president to see what's inside the president. So I guess we'll find out in 2025.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

That is based on cosponsoring bipartisan bills. Is that really the greatest indicator of progressiveness? You are taking a three decade career minimizing it to a 3.5 year segment in which she has espoused progressive views never really did much with them and then gave them up and gone back to being very moderate over the last four years in the administration she is serving.

We have a saying a cat can have kittens in the oven doesn't mean we call them biscuits. She isn't a biscuit.

I said she is seen that way. We can argue whether she is or not, but pretty sure that there is no real arguing that she doesn't have that perception.

[NC_Skins]

I see why Trump wanted to face Biden so bad. He is getting fucking slaughtered by Kamala at this debate.


The key parts that Kamala killed on:

1) the rally bit
2) 200 Republicans that support her, including a former GOP VP and some of his former staff
3) The criminal indictments

Lord she played that shit masterfully.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I see why Trump wanted to face Biden so bad. He is getting fucking slaughtered by Kamala at this debate.

The key parts that Kamala killed on:

1) the rally bit
2) 200 Republicans that support her, including a former GOP VP and some of his former staff
3) The criminal indictments

Lord she played that shit masterfully.

Trump definitely looked washed as fuck. Not surprising since he's 78.

She's completely full of shit, but she definitely won the debate.

Note - David Muir might as well be announced as a Kamala employee. This debate was much much worse than the Trump/Biden debate in terms of the moderators.

[MTK]

Yeah real time fact checking is a bitch

They’re eating the dogs! Fucking moron

Trump got dragged, it’s over

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I see why Trump wanted to face Biden so bad. He is getting fucking slaughtered by Kamala at this debate.


The key parts that Kamala killed on:

1) the rally bit
2) 200 Republicans that support her, including a former GOP VP and some of his former staff
3) The criminal indictments

Lord she played that shit masterfully.

She baited him so easily and he bit each time

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s his last debate, he was so overmatched

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah real time fact checking is a bitch

They’re eating the dogs! Fucking moron

Trump got dragged, it’s over

I felt like this in 2016, yet somehow that dipshit ended up in the White House. I swear to fucking christ people gotta vote this time.

[Giantone]

Agree, what I want to know where are all the people who were bitching about Biden and being old? Trump is as bad or worse. Harris made him look like shit.
What is sad this might not affect the "Electoral College" meaning trump can lose the popular vote(which he has) and still win.

[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Sadly you're correct, politician have always been a little slimey but some still would do the right thing when it came down to it but not now Republicans politicians are "Deplorable" people and like it that way.

I more so blame his supporters for enabling his behavior. There is no line he can cross to them and that is just so dangerous. Politicians are politicians and they will always pander for votes. There is a reason Kevin McCarthy went from saying "I'm done with this guy" on January 7th to being his biggest ass kissers .
Votes from people who have lost the ability to distinguish right from wrong.

[BaltimoreSkins]

The really frustrating thing with GOP leadership right now is the crazy push for bat shit crazy conspiracy theories. There are real problems with immigration that it would be great to have discussions about and try to resolve real problems: Why are small towns facing the economic burden without help from the federal and state governments, American workers having a economic value and being able to command higher wages but corporations cutting them off for basically free labor they can pay below minimum wage, I could go on and on. Instead we get Haitians eating dogs as the primary issue.

When you take serious issues and make it a farce people have trouble trusting you.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

The really frustrating thing with GOP leadership right now is the crazy push for bat shit crazy conspiracy theories. There are real problems with immigration that it would be great to have discussions about and try to resolve real problems: Why are small towns facing the economic burden without help from the federal and state governments, American workers having a economic value and being able to command higher wages but corporations cutting them off for basically free labor they can pay below minimum wage, I could go on and on. Instead we get Haitians eating dogs as the primary issue.

When you take serious issues and make it a farce people have trouble trusting you.

Billboards in AZ, can't make this shit up, GOP just isn't a serious party

Arizona GOP Launches 'Eat Less Kittens' Billboards Referencing Unfounded Conspiracy Theory

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

Billboards in AZ, can't make this shit up, GOP just isn't a serious party

Arizona GOP Launches 'Eat Less Kittens' Billboards Referencing Unfounded Conspiracy Theory

I just checked the weather in Springfield.
It’s raining cats and dogs there.

Most people are upset but the Haitians are calling it Thanksgiving…



Too soon?