***2010-2011 College Football Thread***

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'll second that. He sounds like a punk who was in on it, but from the way the story goes I think his dad set it up so that if he was caught Cam Newton wouldn't get punished for it.

Anywayzzzz VT ACC Champs again baby! I'll be the first to say I thought we were done when we lost to a FCS school (JMU) for the first time but this school bounced back in a major way and now we're on our way to another Orange Bowl berth. I've heard reports we'll be going up against either WV or Stanford, and if that's the case I'd def. rather go up against Stanford, because I don't think WV is that much of a challenge. The Big East is a pretty weak conference and Stanford has been ballin' all season. Give me the bigger challenge, especially for this great VT team that's won 11 in a row.

WV is not going to be in the BCS. UCONN will.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

WV is not going to be in the BCS. UCONN will.

Yeah, just heard that UConn won and split the Big East with WV, but UConn won the automatic BCS bowl bid for the Big East, so I think it's gonna be VT-Stanford for the Orange Bowl. I knew that WV won but not UConn until a few minutes ago, and I knew that WV was dependant on UConn losing to win the Big East outright and getting that automatic bid.

So it's down to UConn or Stanford against VT in the Orange Bowl, and no disrespect to UConn which has won 5 straight, but I'd rather see Stanford. UConn has a severely one-dimensional offensive attack and I'd just like the stiffer competition to see if VT can proudly represent the ACC in the BCS.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Va Tech got lucky that Ponder couldn't play for FSU. Woulda made that game a lot better to watch.

I disagree. I believe that the young guy gave them a better chance to win. I've watched Ponder the last three weeks leading up to this game and he would have been worse off. Obviously the FSU coaching staff agreed with me by not starting him.

GM, it just seems like you cannot stop hatin on VA Tech. I gave it up for Florida the past few years. Face it, VA Tech wins year in and year out and this year they beat an FSU team that beat the pants off of Florida.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Va Tech got lucky that Ponder couldn't play for FSU. Woulda made that game a lot better to watch.

Still woulda been the same result. Tech got way to much for FSU. EJ Manuel is gonna be the best QB in Florida for awhile.

[Chico23231]

South Carolina represent the SEC east well, that whole division was god aweful this year

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I don't know how to feel about Va Tech. Somedays they make you say "What the f*ck is this sh*t?" then other days it s like where was this when you were playing BSU and JMU? But I give it up for them not bending over after the loss to JMU.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by mooby

Yeah, just heard that UConn won and split the Big East with WV, but UConn won the automatic BCS bowl bid for the Big East, so I think it's gonna be VT-Stanford for the Orange Bowl. I knew that WV won but not UConn until a few minutes ago, and I knew that WV was dependant on UConn losing to win the Big East outright and getting that automatic bid.

So it's down to UConn or Stanford against VT in the Orange Bowl, and no disrespect to UConn which has won 5 straight, but I'd rather see Stanford. UConn has a severely one-dimensional offensive attack and I'd just like the stiffer competition to see if VT can proudly represent the ACC in the BCS.

unfortunatly i have to agree with you, as a big east fan and wvu fan it's gonna suck to watch uconn get blown the f out by whomever they play. like i said before hopefully stewart is gone and wvu will get a legit ncaa coach. they have a ton of talent they just don't always show it on gameday. wvu had the big east locked up and they shit the bed as they have the past few years, kinda reminds me of a nfl team i root for. with the addition of tcu next year hopefully they will add some vadlidation to the big least

as for cam, i was half joking when i said we should draft him and halfway gone, last night was a good one, but he does have that "it" factor that you can't coach or teach. i don't understand why you would veiw him as a punk, if anything he has learned from his mistakes and is moving forward. he had some mistakes at fla but we all make mistakes in our life espescially when we are 18. he isn't running his mouth or trash talking all he does is let his play speak for itself and how can you watch the kid play and not root for him. he just looks like he is playing backyard ball out there and having a blast doing it. it's gonna be very interestign to see where he ends up in the nfl and like gm said the championship game is gonna be a real treat. it has all the making to be usc vs texas part two, and that game was probably one if the best college games i have ever seen.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't know how to feel about Va Tech. Somedays they make you say "What the f*ck is this sh*t?" then other days it s like where was this when you were playing BSU and JMU? But I give it up for them not bending over after the loss to JMU.

It depends on how you feel about losses at the beginning of the season vs. the end. Which defines your team more how you start or finish. I think Tech is a good team...i dont think they are a top 5 team, they dont have the defense to be considered that high. Anywhere between 6-15 I think you could make an arguement for...being in the ACC doesnt help their case.

I know how I feel about Auburn vs Oregon. Auburn is playing the best football in the country, SEC wins the championship again, Cam is too good and the best player in the country period. But go ahead and get an * ready for the history books.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Still woulda been the same result. Tech got way to much for FSU. EJ Manuel is gonna be the best QB in Florida for awhile.

Which is why he's been on the bench behind Ponder. LOL. You should stick to the pros. Clearly you don't know a whole lot about the "amateur" game.

You haven't even heard of Jeff Driskel, have you?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

I disagree. I believe that the young guy gave them a better chance to win. I've watched Ponder the last three weeks leading up to this game and he would have been worse off. Obviously the FSU coaching staff agreed with me by not starting him.

GM, it just seems like you cannot stop hatin on VA Tech. I gave it up for Florida the past few years. Face it, VA Tech wins year in and year out and this year they beat an FSU team that beat the pants off of Florida.

First of all, full disclosure, Florida had an awful year. They're in rebuilding mode for sure. I think they can win the SEC East next year, but they won't be a title contender again until 2012 given how young they are on both sides of the ball.

Ponder has had elbow problems during the second half of the season, and just had it drained a few days before the game. Manuel gave them a better chance to win this week because Ponder couldn't throw without excruciating pain.

Since the James Madison loss, Va Tech has played really, really well. I don't hate them at all. But I think the ACC (and Big East) sucks something awful this year, so that plays a big part of their success. Va Tech wins year in and year out, sure. But they just can't seem to sniff the big one, despite being talked about pretty much perennially as a title contender. That was my only point. Not hating.

They're most likely gonna play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. That will be a nice game.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

South Carolina represent the SEC east well, that whole division was god aweful this year

SEC West had their way this year, East was down for sure. Either way, your Boise State love affair got shit on, and when Auburn puts it on Oregon, it will be yet another year where the national title resides in college football's best, most physical, athletic conference. Hands down.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GMScud

First of all, full disclosure, Florida had an awful year. They're in rebuilding mode for sure. I think they can win the SEC East next year, but they won't be a title contender again until 2012 given how young they are on both sides of the ball.

Ponder has had elbow problems during the second half of the season, and just had it drained a few days before the game. Manuel gave them a better chance to win this week because Ponder couldn't throw without excruciating pain.

Since the James Madison loss, Va Tech has played really, really well. I don't hate them at all. But I think the ACC (and Big East) sucks something awful this year, so that plays a big part of their success. Va Tech wins year in and year out, sure. But they just can't seem to sniff the big one, despite being talked about pretty much perennially as a title contender. That was my only point. Not hating.

They're most likely gonna play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. That will be a nice game.

I can definitely agree with you about VT being called a title contender going into every year, but never getting to the big game. I thought our best shot would've been this year had they not lost their first two, but once again this team showed resolve. In past seasons they had gotten off to hot starts only to lose a couple along the way, and in 2008/09 they rebounded to win the ACC, but this season was definitely unlike any other.

The way they played against Boise State, and then the way they played against JMU made me think we just wouldn't be able to overcome the losses we had suffered after '09, but once again they refused to let it get them down and now they have rebounded to win 11 straight. Now they obviously aren't a title contender but I will be happy if they can continue to represent the ACC by winning their bowl games. I'd rather be the Orange Bowl winner than the Chick-Fil-A bowl winner like they were last year against Tennessee. And 7 straight seasons of 10 or more wins shows that they've been consistent even through turbulent times. I hope we can get into the championship game discussion someday but I think it would take an undefeated season to make that happen.

And yes I agree the Big East does suck something awful this year. WV has a choking problem MLMDUB, but unlike a certain NFL team we both root for, at least they win enough games that puts them into position to choke, whereas the Redskins just have not played good football since the first half of the '08 season. That's not choking, that's just being bad. I'm getting off track here though.

As for Ponder being out, sure it might've helped, but it wasn't like Manuel played so bad. The picks obviously didn't help, but who knows, with the injury problems Ponder has had who's to say he would've done any better? At least Florida State had a nice rebound season.

And I'm quite happy and definitely looking forward to watching VT play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. I think they will be ready for this test, whereas I don't think they were ready for Boise State in the first game of the season.

And MLMDUB, as for Cam Newton I don't think he's a bad football player, he's the opposite actually. The kid is awesome on the field, and that's undeniable, I just think that he tends to take his success for granted, and I do believe he knew what his pops was doing when he tried to extort money in exchange for his son's commitment. His pops just set it up so that if their cover was blown Cam Newton wouldn't take any heat from the NCAA. And he doesn't exactly have a positive track record, it's not like he decided to leave Florida because they didn't give him pt behind Tim "Jesus of Florida" Tebow.

As for the title game this will def. be interesting to watch. Give me 2 teams who have never been before over a consistently top 5 team like Ohio State or USC of past years. I think Auburn wins in the end, simply because they are the better team (and I think Cam Newton will make a bigger difference than LaMichael James) and the SEC is obviously the premier conference.

[saden1]

Urban Meyer done in Florida. Gators are fcked. Maybe he has been to the top and he realized there's no where to go but down?

GScud, do I still have to wait for time to be proven right?

[Chico23231]

Kinda sucks if it is due to health reasons. Seems way too uptight and pissed off all the time, hopefully he can get straight, relax and come back. bit of an egomanic, but effing great coach...like to see him back soon

[KLHJ2]

The Denver Broncos need a coach, Tim Tebow needs someone who believes in him, Urban Meyer needs a team. Brilliant!