Contract From America

Trample the Elderly · 02-18-2010, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Start?

Wackos have been around since the dawn of time. And from the sounds of this one, he's been on a slow boil since the 80s.

I'm just saying. There is a lot of hatred for the 'supposed' NWO out there.

dmek25 · 02-18-2010, 03:45 PM

this is totally futile. the good old boys in Washington have it just the way they like it. you will not see change like this in our life time

saden1 · 02-18-2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'll have to call MCV again. The last time I checked in was 5k. You can send it strait to the hospital it you like. I really want a vasectomy so I can be a total whore.

Male vasectomy doesn't cost that much! You think me a pidgin?

Beemnseven · 02-18-2010, 07:13 PM

I would add two things --

-- Adopt a foreign policy of non-intervention. No more invading countries that never attacked us, overthrowing governments that we don't like, propping up and arming dictators we do like, etc., etc.

-- Admit that the federal government has no business dictating who can and cannot get married. Leave that and all other social issues (abortion, drug policies) to the states.

Trample the Elderly · 02-18-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saden1

Male vasectomy doesn't cost that much! You think me a pidgin?

It's been a two years since I called. I don't remember exactly how much it was. It's more money than I have or I'd have it done already. Tomorrow I'll call again.

Beemnseven · 02-18-2010, 07:48 PM

dmek and saden, I wouldn't take the Tea Party movement as something that's solely Republican-driven. Yes, the Democrats are probably going to get it broken off in their ass this November, but that's only because they have complete power. If the Pubbies were in control, the same thing would happen to them. In fact it already did happen to them in '06 and '08. The issue then was outrage over the wars. Now it's health care and fiscal insanity.

I really believe that this is a backlash against both parties, against government in general. The system we have now, which has been in control by only two select groups for over a century, may be starting to crack. I'd like to see a break up of the two-party system into a mish-mash of many different ideaologies, all angling for something different than the same ol' business as usual, corrupt, back-room dealings with cronies who have had the ear -- and the pockets -- of both parties for far too long.

I know you two are democrats, but trust me -- the republicans are going to be a short leash this time around. If we see them going back to the ways of big spending, expanding government, and marching all over the face of the earth with a 'tough foreign policy' stance that they've always been so proud of, but does nothing but get young Americans killed, they'll be thrown right out just as fast as they got back there.

Nobody's going to get a long running free pass anymore, with the voters as apt as they've been for massive upheavals of power shifting in both directions. Only this time, I think there are some new players in the game, and that's a good thing.

budw38 · 02-18-2010, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

It's been a two years since I called. I don't remember exactly how much it was. It's more money than I have or I'd have it done already. Tomorrow I'll call again.

Why the hell would you let anyone cut you in that area .

Trample the Elderly · 02-18-2010, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budw38

Why the hell would you let anyone cut you in that area .

I'm getting tired of pulling out.

budw38 · 02-18-2010, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'm getting tired of pulling out.

Stay away from the knife .... go ... with the /low .

mlmpetert · 02-19-2010, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I would add two things --

-- Adopt a foreign policy of non-intervention. No more invading countries that never attacked us, overthrowing governments that we don't like, propping up and arming dictators we do like, etc., etc.

-- Admit that the federal government has no business dictating who can and cannot get married. Leave that and all other social issues (abortion, drug policies) to the states.

Yeah kind of wierd that neither of those things are on there. It scares me that Sarah Palin is being courted by Tea Party activist too. I hope they dont start leaning towards a conservative social agenda, then the Tea Partiers are pretty much back to where everything started going wrong for the Republicans.

tryfuhl · 02-19-2010, 11:25 AM

Exactly mlmpetert, that's why I'm still very cautious.

firstdown · 02-19-2010, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I would add two things --

-- Adopt a foreign policy of non-intervention. No more invading countries that never attacked us, overthrowing governments that we don't like, propping up and arming dictators we do like, etc., etc.

-- Admit that the federal government has no business dictating who can and cannot get married. Leave that and all other social issues (abortion, drug policies) to the states.

-Add Have a govermnet that stays out of health care.
- have a federal goverment that does not steal my money and allows me
to save for my own retirement
- have a fed goverment that does not take my money and forces me to pay for their social issues.

I could go on and on but you get my point.

firstdown · 02-19-2010, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah kind of wierd that neither of those things are on there. It scares me that Sarah Palin is being courted by Tea Party activist too. I hope they dont start leaning towards a conservative social agenda, then the Tea Partiers are pretty much back to where everything started going wrong for the Republicans.

Things started going wrong for the republicans when they got away from being conservative.

tryfuhl · 02-19-2010, 11:38 AM

Every dept of the government should find ways and submit reports on how they can help the overall budget reduce

Everything from less expensive furniture, travel and entertainment expenses, etc

If we expect it from the banks that we bail out, we should expect it from the fed that we're bailing out as well.. states shouldn't be exempt either

tryfuhl · 02-19-2010, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstdown

Things started going wrong for the republicans when they got away from being conservative.

Exactly, we hear about dems "wasting money" but it really is no different than the repubs doing the same.

I hear too much about guns, god, abortion, etc.. I guess that it's just easier to sweep the economy issue under the rug because most people can't even explain the issues when I talk to them.. too boring for the average mind it seems

02-18-2010, 03:45 PM	#17
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Contract From America this is totally futile. the good old boys in Washington have it just the way they like it. you will not see change like this in our life time __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-18-2010, 07:13 PM	#19
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Contract From America I would add two things -- -- Adopt a foreign policy of non-intervention. No more invading countries that never attacked us, overthrowing governments that we don't like, propping up and arming dictators we do like, etc., etc. -- Admit that the federal government has no business dictating who can and cannot get married. Leave that and all other social issues (abortion, drug policies) to the states.

02-18-2010, 07:48 PM	#21
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Contract From America dmek and saden, I wouldn't take the Tea Party movement as something that's solely Republican-driven. Yes, the Democrats are probably going to get it broken off in their ass this November, but that's only because they have complete power. If the Pubbies were in control, the same thing would happen to them. In fact it already did happen to them in '06 and '08. The issue then was outrage over the wars. Now it's health care and fiscal insanity. I really believe that this is a backlash against both parties, against government in general. The system we have now, which has been in control by only two select groups for over a century, may be starting to crack. I'd like to see a break up of the two-party system into a mish-mash of many different ideaologies, all angling for something different than the same ol' business as usual, corrupt, back-room dealings with cronies who have had the ear -- and the pockets -- of both parties for far too long. I know you two are democrats, but trust me -- the republicans are going to be a short leash this time around. If we see them going back to the ways of big spending, expanding government, and marching all over the face of the earth with a 'tough foreign policy' stance that they've always been so proud of, but does nothing but get young Americans killed, they'll be thrown right out just as fast as they got back there. Nobody's going to get a long running free pass anymore, with the voters as apt as they've been for massive upheavals of power shifting in both directions. Only this time, I think there are some new players in the game, and that's a good thing.

02-19-2010, 11:25 AM	#26
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Contract From America Exactly mlmpetert, that's why I'm still very cautious.

02-19-2010, 11:38 AM	#29
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Contract From America Every dept of the government should find ways and submit reports on how they can help the overall budget reduce Everything from less expensive furniture, travel and entertainment expenses, etc If we expect it from the banks that we bail out, we should expect it from the fed that we're bailing out as well.. states shouldn't be exempt either

Contract From America

Debating with the enemy