Giants Postgame

[MTK]

PFF isn’t perfect or the end all be all, but it shouldn’t be dismissed as useless either.

[Chico23231]

Man I’m happy Dunbar is trending up...we need him.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

PFF isn’t perfect or the end all be all, but it shouldn’t be dismissed as useless either.

I agree. They keep up with lots of stats you just can't find anywhere else.

I have a healthy skepticism of line play grades without knowing the grader because a requisite knowledge is involved.

There are few stats involved which makes it subjective.

I can't think of a good explanation why their grade would differ so much from Cooley's other than incompetence.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Dunbar is undercover becoming one of my favorite players. His story with us is pretty amazing. Talent, hard work, and humility is one hell of a combo. Wish him the best with us obviously, but if he ever leaves, I'd still pull for him.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I agree. They keep up with lots of stats you just can't find anywhere else.

I have a healthy skepticism of line play grades without knowing the grader because a requisite knowledge is involved.

There are few stats involved which makes it subjective.

I can't think of a good explanation why their grade would differ so much from Cooley's other than incompetence.

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This biggest issue is PFF does not know what they are expected to do during each play. Same thing happened last year with Norman. He was roasted on a few plays due to poor safety play and PFF torched him. They are a good source, it just needs to be tempered.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

And just because we’re 5-2 doesn’t mean we don’t have a problem at QB. Eventually we’re going to need to air it out to win a shoot out, and Smith will wilt as seen in the Colts game, the Saints game, and almost happened in other games. This weekend will be a test not only of our defense, but Smith if we get into a shootout with Matt Ryan, and you can BET Smith won’t be able to keep up.

Sometimes you need to strike quickly to take the momentum from the other team, sometimes the ground game is down and you need to shoulder the load, sometimes you need to send the ball more than 5 yards. SMITH CANT DO IT. He puts people to sleep and scares no one. If we didn’t have AP we’d be FUCKED


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I’m gonna quote myself. Here’s the shoot out I keep talking about. This is where and when Smith will need to step up and air it out to keep up. Bet he can’t do it


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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

5-2



Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2

Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2

Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2



Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2



There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2



In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2



Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.



6-2.

Do we want to talk about this anymore?

- Did we get to 6-2 NOPE
- Did we lose another shootout BADLY YUP
- Has the lack of a passing attack turned out to be a huge problem YUP
- Has our QB situation become a huge problem, and even bigger with the Online injuries YUP


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Do we want to talk about this anymore?

- Did we get to 6-2 NOPE
- Did we lose another shootout BADLY YUP
- Has the lack of a passing attack turned out to be a huge problem YUP
- Has our QB situation become a huge problem, and even bigger with the Online injuries YUP


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ok ok ok....we get it. Joe enthusiasm was def spot on...he never defended the passing game and was more or less saying we are winning playing our style, which was fine. I think everyone is aware A Smith and Jay Gruden haven't been good in the development of the passing attack. At this point, your post...while it maybe correct in some aspects...really doesn't bring anything.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

ok ok ok....we get it. Joe enthusiasm was def spot on...he never defended the passing game and was more or less saying we are winning playing our style, which was fine. I think everyone is aware A Smith and Jay Gruden haven't been good in the development of the passing attack. At this point, your post...while it maybe correct in some aspects...really doesn't bring anything.

I know it offers no value, just from Friday ball busting


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