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Old 05-31-2020, 10:05 PM   #2086
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No excuse for rogue cops who abuse their authority, they need to fry. On the other hand why does the left always ignore what the "victim" of police brutality did to cause the negative reaction with police in the first place? On this latest incident, George Floyd tried to pass counterfeit money and resisted arrest. Last I checked, almost always victims of police brutality were not 100% innocent citizens, they initiated the events that led to the bad outcome.
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Old 05-31-2020, 10:20 PM   #2087
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No excuse for rogue cops who abuse their authority, they need to fry. On the other hand why does the left always ignore what the "victim" of police brutality did to cause the negative reaction with police in the first place? On this latest incident, George Floyd tried to pass counterfeit money and resisted arrest. Last I checked, almost always victims of police brutality were not 100% innocent citizens, they initiated the events that led to the bad outcome.
Four supposedly train Police Officers couldn't handle one man who was UNARMED already in handcuffs and on the ground. Fuck that!
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Old 05-31-2020, 10:23 PM   #2088
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No excuse for rogue cops who abuse their authority, they need to fry. On the other hand why does the left always ignore what the "victim" of police brutality did to cause the negative reaction with police in the first place? On this latest incident, George Floyd tried to pass counterfeit money and resisted arrest. Last I checked, almost always victims of police brutality were not 100% innocent citizens, they initiated the events that led to the bad outcome.

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Old 06-01-2020, 10:55 AM   #2089
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97 million people is almost a third of what the US has. Sure, not the same, but Vietnam isn't some small country.

How about this? The country with the 2nd most confirmed cases is Brazil, with 465k confirmed. The #1 country? The US, with 1.7 million confirmed cases.

How about top 5 countries by population?

1. China: 1.4 billion people, 84k confirmed cases, ranked #16 (I'll even grant you that number is horseshit because China has state-run media).
2. India: 1.3 billion people, 181k confirmed cases, ranked #9
3. United States: 327 million people, 1.7 mil confirmed cases, easily ranked #1 with almost 3.5 times the amount of cases as #2
4. Indonesia, 267 million people, 25k confirmed cases, ranked #33
5. Pakistan, 212 million people, 66k confirmed cases, ranked #18

How many of those other countries have an entire political party convinced the 'rona is nothing major, led by a President who didn't take it seriously for 2 months?

You laugh off Vietnam as a joke because 97 million people couldn't possibly compare to 327 million, but you know what the difference is? They were aggressive in January, banning flights from Wuhan first, doing aggressive contact tracing and isolating anyone connected. And their people didn't try and fight it either, they trusted the doctors and science and quarantined themselves until they knew it was safe.

A smart population, led by smart government who deferred to the experts from the start = 0 deaths, out of 97 million people. We'll be lucky if COVID is done by next year. Too many idiots demanding the public be reopened while we haven't even contained it yet.

P.S. I agree with Killer Mike, but let's not pretend you'd be shitting on him too if he was up there saying "hey guys, it's ok to have an issue with CNN being biased, but let's not damage their property ok?"

P.P.S. I'll never take you seriously if you won't lump Fox News into the same boat as CNN. They both do the same shit, present opinions from paid contributors with slanted coverage to tell the people how to think.
You know who laughed off the Wuhan virus in January too? The entire media and experts, your memory is short...stop trying to rewrite history. The only person talking about the virus was Republican Jim Cotton and he was accused of conspiracy theories and laughed out by the media. There is a collection of 50 plus headlines from the mainstream media saying don’t worry about caronvirus

Mooby you know what you were doing in January? Bitching about the country killing a fucking terrorist...claiming ww3 had started and bitching about an impeachment which was a political failure and a nothing burger from the start. People accused the president of racism when he imposed the China travel ban...seriously.

But yes Vietnam...lol. Go ahead and cherry pick the stats that support a narrative of how terrible the country Is and avoid the others that say our response has been inline and have avoided large death rates in other countries. You list China for some reason to promote their propaganda agenda while evidence exist in based on urn supply chain which suggest An increase of 40,000 Deaths in Wuhan alone in a 2 month period.

But yes, round of applause for...checks note...Vietnam. Where have a third of the deaths occurred here? Any criticism for the outlier...you know CNN has the brothers on to do their comedy routine recently.
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Old 06-01-2020, 12:39 PM   #2090
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No excuse for rogue cops who abuse their authority, they need to fry. On the other hand why does the left always ignore what the "victim" of police brutality did to cause the negative reaction with police in the first place? On this latest incident, George Floyd tried to pass counterfeit money and resisted arrest. Last I checked, almost always victims of police brutality were not 100% innocent citizens, they initiated the events that led to the bad outcome.
Good morning bob .. hope all is well.

If your first sentence says there is no excuse for police exceeding their authority and they need to fry .... whey then spend the next 5 sentences making excuses. I think this particular case was so blatant, so unnecessary that even very pro blue cannot justify or excuse this particular death.

“Almost all” ... I would challenge that. A woman a nurse was killed by the police while she was sleeping in bed a few weeks ago. A aunt was shot and killed through her home window playing video games with her nephew she was babysitting.

The police need to be held to a higher standard than they currently are in this country. The use of lethal force should be the extreme last resort. I understand police can be on edge responding to a report of a guy with a gun but when you have the guy on the ground begging for his life and your yelling him instructions to crawl to you and he does and you shot him 30 times? The guy a dad a pest control guy is dead and the cop is getting over 30k pension for the rest of his life.

Police culture needs to change.

The narrative that cops don’t lie needs to change.

The police thinking they can pull the trigger at any slight thought needs to change.

What’s the solution? Hell if I know man ...
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Old 06-01-2020, 12:43 PM   #2091
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You know who laughed off the Wuhan virus in January too? The entire media and experts, your memory is short...stop trying to rewrite history. The only person talking about the virus was Republican Jim Cotton and he was accused of conspiracy theories and laughed out by the media. There is a collection of 50 plus headlines from the mainstream media saying don’t worry about caronvirus
If there's that many go ahead and prove it. Give me 1/5th of them. Mainstream media sources too, since you are clearly on top of it.
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I can remember back to Jan and Feb when it seemed like every night it was all about covid-19 on the nightly news and feeling like it was a bit overkill considering we barely had any cases. Then March came around.
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Old 06-01-2020, 01:33 PM   #2093
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The George Floyd video...the anger I feel watching that is equivalent to the anger I feel when I see the video of the 9/11 terrorist attack. I think was gets me is the casual hand in the pocket by the officer. It infuriates me

I stand with all the peaceful protesters...all the officers should be charged
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Old 06-01-2020, 01:58 PM   #2094
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Good morning bob .. hope all is well.

If your first sentence says there is no excuse for police exceeding their authority and they need to fry .... whey then spend the next 5 sentences making excuses. I think this particular case was so blatant, so unnecessary that even very pro blue cannot justify or excuse this particular death.

“Almost all” ... I would challenge that. A woman a nurse was killed by the police while she was sleeping in bed a few weeks ago. A aunt was shot and killed through her home window playing video games with her nephew she was babysitting.

The police need to be held to a higher standard than they currently are in this country. The use of lethal force should be the extreme last resort. I understand police can be on edge responding to a report of a guy with a gun but when you have the guy on the ground begging for his life and your yelling him instructions to crawl to you and he does and you shot him 30 times? The guy a dad a pest control guy is dead and the cop is getting over 30k pension for the rest of his life.

Police culture needs to change.

The narrative that cops don’t lie needs to change.

The police thinking they can pull the trigger at any slight thought needs to change.

What’s the solution? Hell if I know man ...
Well said, and I agree about the solution. A lot needs to change but how we get there is a mystery.
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The George Floyd video...the anger I feel watching that is equivalent to the anger I feel when I see the video of the 9/11 terrorist attack. I think was gets me is the casual hand in the pocket by the officer. It infuriates me

I stand with all the peaceful protesters...all the officers should be charged
Part of the problem i think is that the average citizen isn't doing enough when they see cops doing wrong and / or blatantly murdering a man like was the case with George Floyd.

A mob of people are standing around recording the cops but nobody was willing to tackle the MF'er so that a life could be saved.

I told my wife on Sunday and we both agreed, that if we come across something like that, I will do what i can to save a life. If that means engaging a cop or restraining him, etc., then so be it.
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:29 PM   #2096
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:30 PM   #2097
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Disgraceful by the media and left excusing rioting but just 3 weeks ago were whining like bitches about 200 actual peaceful protestors wanting to open the country up to feed their families
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:37 PM   #2098
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Modern Day Clan Rallies

Republicans love this shit!
Lol...oh it’s trump fault. Jfc

The mayors where this shit happens are Democrats, the police unions are run Democrats, the police they are every race, ethnicity and color, the police captains are Democrats...they are looting Democrats owned businesses...

But the problem are republicans...it’s a dishonest, and that bullshit looks like Russian propaganda...i guess it’s the alt right out there looting and committing all the violence too? Come on man, let’s put these political narratives aside...no republicans or Democrats are in favor of what happened to this man
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:40 PM   #2099
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Part of the problem i think is that the average citizen isn't doing enough when they see cops doing wrong and / or blatantly murdering a man like was the case with George Floyd.

A mob of people are standing around recording the cops but nobody was willing to tackle the MF'er so that a life could be saved.

I told my wife on Sunday and we both agreed, that if we come across something like that, I will do what i can to save a life. If that means engaging a cop or restraining him, etc., then so be it.
People shouldn’t have to do that. A police culture that identifies these bad apples within its ranks needs to become part of the solution. It’s starts with training and instilling a system of accountability. End of story
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Tackle a cop?? Yeah that's not going to end well. Instead of 1 dead guy there would be 2 or 3.
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