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Old 02-08-2020, 12:53 PM   #166
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Once again your reading comprehension is selective. Mooby just ripped on white people. Why do you deny what is right in front of your face? I am starting to think you just post crap to try to get a rise out of people or you are going senile. My liberal white girlfriend rips on white people all the time.
No Mooby didn't rip white people.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:54 PM   #167
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:54 PM   #168
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Hispanics vote predominantly Democrat. So those people you're referencing are most likely going to vote Democrat or note vote at all.
In the democratic primary the Uncle Jorge's of the world will vote for someone other than Pete Buttigieg, and if Pete wins the nomination he will not vote in the general election. Kind of like what I did with Trump, I voted for Rubio in the primary, then when Trump was nominated I pretty much didn't vote by writing in Will Seemore.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:57 PM   #169
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In the democratic primary the Uncle Jorge's of the world will vote for someone other than Pete Buttigieg, and if Pete wins the nomination he will not vote in the general election. Kind of like what I did with Trump, I voted for Rubio in the primary, then when Trump was nominated I pretty much didn't vote by writing in Will Seemore.
Since you or your uncle won't vote what you say doesn't matter , right?
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Old 02-08-2020, 02:09 PM   #170
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Then the personal insults begin. The g1 playbook is known
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Old 02-08-2020, 03:36 PM   #171
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Is he not? What is his mission statement other than "I am a successful businessman ala Trump, but I'm not Trump." He's just throwing money at it that he can afford to lose, what solutions is he presenting to any of the problems facing real Americans today?

Also Sunny, I think you're doing a good job trying to reach across the aisle and bridge the gap between us and Chico/Cred, but Chico has a real hard-on for just pointing out media hypocrisy and inaccuracy instead of realizing both sides do that nowadays, both sides are going to keep churning out content anywhere from factual (Reuters/AP in my book) to cherry-picking/media spin (Breitbart/HuffPo). As long as people keep clicking, that's the goal. There's always going to be someone trying to pin blame or use a situation to promote a theory without evidence, and it's never going to change if you keep clicking/posting/sharing.

For the most part I find your positions reasonable, and I agree with most of them. I think we could do a way better job of healthcare in this country, in its' current form it places profit for the medical insurance/tech/supplier industries over human life. I think considering we have seen systems implemented in other first world countries it's reasonable to think we could implement a similar system here, one that doesn't bankrupt people who need major life-saving surgeries or raise the price of insulin/meds 5000% out of pure greed. But it would require winners and losers. Winners would be American citizens (note I didn't say illegals) for not paying $100 for a bag of saline solution in a hospital, or 140 grand for a snakebite needing anti-venom. Losers will be medical insurance for not making profits off healthy Americans who never visit the hospital, or pharma companies not jacking up the price of a life-saving medication 5000%.

I disagree with anyone who wants open borders. But I think families and parents who want to come to America to work hard to provide for their families shouldn't have to wait 10 years to get in. I'm fine taking that wall money and spending it on border agents or technology that makes their jobs easier, but implying it's going to do anything other than make it harder for illegal immigrants to cross is insane. It's not going to slow down Americans' insane appetite for illegal drugs. It's just going to make people pay more money to ride in the trunk of a car at a border crossing, or cross on a boat on the coast at the middle of the night, or pay extra to use a cartel tunnel underneath the border. It will do literally nothing to stop people from overstaying their visa/etc. which is approximately 25% of all illegal immigrants. And unless they build a wall of solid concrete there's a good chance people in Mexico are just going to try and cut through it anyways. If Trump didn't insist on making this a political thing, and instead said "I want to increase funding to the Border Patrol so they can decide the most important areas to build a wall" it would be a lot easier to support.

The housing thing I'm not smart enough to understand a solution to, but I feel like as long as real estate is prioritized as a fantastic money-making opportunity instead of "low-income people need a place to live too" it will always be a problem.

I like Bernie because I think even though solving healthcare is a difficult problem, it's one that needs to be addressed with major changes. I don't care about free public colleges, and I disagree with open borders. The difference is with Trump he will stop at nothing to enact his policies, whether it means pulling money out of anything to build a border wall, or doing it solely via Executive Order instead of doing the proper method through Congress. If Bernie said his main goal is abolishing ICE/CBP but the rest of the Dems totally disagreed with it (obv. you have your AOC's who would support it) it would never happen.

Anyways I think it's a moot point as the mainstream Dems don't support Bernie, and there isn't a single conservative (moderate or extreme) that supports his ideas either. I think the DNC will do anything to make sure he doesn't win the nomination too. And I don't necessarily disagree with that either, our best chance at winning is supporting a candidate that will appeal to moderates who voted for Trump in 2016. And that's not Bernie.

Biden I don't like because he seems out of touch with young people when he talks shit about weed and video games. He needs to realize alienating young people is not the best way to mobilize them to vote for you.

Buttigieg I know nothing about his policy ideas, only that he's gay and was the former mayor of South Bend. He's never going to convince your average straight white male conservative to vote for him though. I think if he won the nomination anti-LGBTQ sentiment would rise from the religious majority on the right.

Warren I don't think is strong enough to stand up to the Trump attacks. We need a candidate who is not going to let the Trump attacks distract from trying to win over swing voters.

I'm not sure who's going to win the nomination, but I feel like it's Biden as he represents the biggest name and the DNC likes him. If he prioritizes responding to Trump attacks over trying to win swing voters he's gonna lose though. One of the key mistakes Hill-dawg made was not campaigning enough in swing states in 2016.
I also have a hard-on for facts as well as Democrats Tulsi Gabbard and Kyrsten Sinema.

You need to look at Klobuchar...she’s a decent candidate.

Here’s my Democratic trash candidate rankings at this time:

1. Warren - lying, pandering, trash who says the dumbest shit like I want a tranny to approve my sec of education. Her lies are some of all time favorites.

2. Bernie - past communist trash, who now masquerades as a socialist. He puts Democratic in front to legitimize an obvious stigma of past national socialist state failures. He’s in favor of the green new deal which is part Marxist and full socialist effort to destroy the free market and make the novel 1984 come to life. He’s not behind any significant legislation as his time as leftist nut case of Congress. What I like about Bernie is he is consistent in ideas except for his bullshit “woke” costume he has to wear thru the primary...it’s laughable to watch.

3. Mayor Pete - he was good at first until he started spewing his bullshit anti religious nonsense. He doesn’t have any experience or idea about foreign policy. I’m loving that lefties are calling him rat face and The Bernie bros hate have legitimized him as a viable candidate.
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Old 02-08-2020, 08:07 PM   #172
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Then the personal insults begin. The g1 playbook is known
........again chico with the cherry picking .Maybe read the whole thread and see who threw what out at who first.
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No Mooby didn't rip white people.
He said white conservatives won't vote for a gay may, that is a rip in anyone's book but yours. You have selective reading comprehension.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:51 PM   #174
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He said white conservatives won't vote for a gay may, that is a rip in anyone's book but yours. You have selective reading comprehension.
Jr, you need to buy yourself a mirror.
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:20 PM   #175
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Jr, you need to buy yourself a mirror.
You just love trying to brand people, and paint them with a broad brush.
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:47 PM   #176
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With these easy steps you too can have peace of mind G1.
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Old 02-09-2020, 05:31 PM   #177
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........again chico with the cherry picking .Maybe read the whole thread and see who threw what out at who first.
I threw at all Giants fans, I can't help it if your reading comprehension didn't catch that.

I ignored your followup, because, like most of your political posts, they only make sense in your world.
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Old 02-09-2020, 10:00 PM   #178
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I threw at all Giants fans, I can't help it if your reading comprehension didn't catch that.

I ignored your followup, because, like most of your political posts, they only make sense in your world.
Or.........to poster's that are not trump sheep.
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Old 02-09-2020, 10:01 PM   #179
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With these easy steps you too can have peace of mind G1.
LOL, it's a thought but then jr will never realize just how off the wall he is.
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You just love trying to brand people, and paint them with a broad brush.
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