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Giantone · 10-31-2018, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

yes

Should we have open borders where people flow through?

No

Oct 31 ,2018

Hell froze over . Chico and G1 agree! Watch FOX news for a link!

MTK · 11-01-2018, 03:03 PM

Anyone have a problem with this stunt of Trump sending troops to the border? Seems like the number being sent is rising by the day, seems slightly fucking ridiculous to me.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Anyone have a problem with this stunt of Trump sending troops to the border? Seems like the number being sent is rising by the day, seems slightly fucking ridiculous to me.

There is no good option when thousands of people are planning to illegally come into the country at the same time. Letting them all in is not a good option either. Where will they stay, who pays for it, how are they going to contribute to where they end up? Trump is between a rock and a hard place. No win situation. I don't think Border Patrol has the manpower or resources for this plus all their normal functions. This is going to be a disaster. Its like knowing the Titanic was sinking before it even left the port.

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2018, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Anyone have a problem with this stunt of Trump sending troops to the border? Seems like the number being sent is rising by the day, seems slightly fucking ridiculous to me.

Seems to me that he is trying to send the message to the caravan instigators to turn it around, or at least to the people in the caravans.

If people were using common sense instead of hate_trump mentality - yes, but most of these instances are driven by people who have trump based insanity, and we aren't seeing a whole lot of rational behavior on either side.

Giantone · 11-01-2018, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Anyone have a problem with this stunt of Trump sending troops to the border? Seems like the number being sent is rising by the day, seems slightly fucking ridiculous to me.

Yes , there is Boarder patrol ,supplement it with Police if you have to .Trump sending military is strictly for show.

MTK · 11-01-2018, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Seems to me that he is trying to send the message to the caravan instigators to turn it around, or at least to the people in the caravans.

If people were using common sense instead of hate_trump mentality - yes, but most of these instances are driven by people who have trump based insanity, and we aren't seeing a whole lot of rational behavior on either side.

Do we need 15,000 trumps though? Because that's the latest number he's blabbering about.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-01-2018, 03:56 PM

I would send 1 million troops.

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Do we need 15,000 trumps though? Because that's the latest number he's blabbering about.

15000 TRUMPS the dems would commit Hari Kari en masse!!!

Giantone · 11-01-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

15000 TRUMPS the dems would commit Hari Kari en masse!!!

No, russia would love it though and you would be calling everyone comrade...............,comrade.

mooby · 11-01-2018, 04:36 PM

I'd have to dig it up but IIRC the military can only help the police in a support role, not a "handle all their duties" role. Something about separation of military and police that went into law way back when. Of course I'm sure there's a clause in there somewhere about it being allowed in cases of emergency, aka like when the National Guard gets deployed for natural disaster relief. The argument would lie in "does a migrant caravan constitute an emergency," to which me and G1 would probably say no, and Cred/Chico would probably say yes. (If I'm wrong I'd happily eat that crow Cred/Chico).

Giantone · 11-01-2018, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I'd have to dig it up but IIRC the military can only help the police in a support role, not a "handle all their duties" role. Something about separation of military and police that went into law way back when. Of course I'm sure there's a clause in there somewhere about it being allowed in cases of emergency, aka like when the National Guard gets deployed for natural disaster relief. The argument would lie in "does a migrant caravan constitute an emergency," to which me and G1 would probably say no, and Cred/Chico would probably say yes. (If I'm wrong I'd happily eat that crow Cred/Chico).

My viewpoint is this, thousand of people want and try to come into the US everyday.Kinda like and airport security line on a regular week day and then on Thanksgiving it's a major rush of thousands of people and yes you need extra people there but they don't call out the Military for it.

Chico23231 · 11-01-2018, 05:13 PM

I really don’t care, but they try to come into the country illegally, they all should be arrested and deported.

It’s logistics...military is probably more prepared to deal with an unpredictable mass of people intent on breaking federal law than police. I think people are twisting the narrative and think this will be a confrontation...I think it’s more a political act for the organizers who really want the media to over sensationalize and take a bunch of emotional photos. Of course confrontation is what the media prefers.

It really doesn’t matter at this point in terms of outcome...it’s trumps fault always. We get it.

Giantone · 11-01-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Seems to me that he is trying to send the message to the caravan instigators to turn it around, or at least to the people in the caravans.

If people were using common sense instead of hate_trump mentality - yes, but most of these instances are driven by people who have trump based insanity, and we aren't seeing a whole lot of rational behavior on either side.

LOL..........when in doubt you defend trump no matter what .

Giantone · 11-01-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I really don’t care, but they try to come into the country illegally, they all should be arrested and deported.

It’s logistics...military is probably more prepared to deal with an unpredictable mass of people intent on breaking federal law than police. I think people are twisting the narrative and think this will be a confrontation...I think it’s more a political act for the organizers who really want the media to over sensationalize and take a bunch of emotional photos. Of course confrontation is what the media prefers.

It really doesn’t matter at this point in terms of outcome...it’s trumps fault always. We get it.

Good, then talk to Credskin ...he doesn't.

CRedskinsRule · 11-01-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I'd have to dig it up but IIRC the military can only help the police in a support role, not a "handle all their duties" role. Something about separation of military and police that went into law way back when. Of course I'm sure there's a clause in there somewhere about it being allowed in cases of emergency, aka like when the National Guard gets deployed for natural disaster relief. The argument would lie in "does a migrant caravan constitute an emergency," to which me and G1 would probably say no, and Cred/Chico would probably say yes. (If I'm wrong I'd happily eat that crow Cred/Chico).

I believe you are correct. But what I heard was the plan was to use the military's mobility to enhance the border patrol, so if border control agents need to get 15 miles down the road, the air force or army will have personnel there to make it happen, or they need more constatine wire, the mp's have lots of that (trust me i know - shit's a pain in the ...)

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mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,428	Re: Winning I'd have to dig it up but IIRC the military can only help the police in a support role, not a "handle all their duties" role. Something about separation of military and police that went into law way back when. Of course I'm sure there's a clause in there somewhere about it being allowed in cases of emergency, aka like when the National Guard gets deployed for natural disaster relief. The argument would lie in "does a migrant caravan constitute an emergency," to which me and G1 would probably say no, and Cred/Chico would probably say yes. (If I'm wrong I'd happily eat that crow Cred/Chico).

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Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,292	Re: Winning I really don’t care, but they try to come into the country illegally, they all should be arrested and deported. It’s logistics...military is probably more prepared to deal with an unpredictable mass of people intent on breaking federal law than police. I think people are twisting the narrative and think this will be a confrontation...I think it’s more a political act for the organizers who really want the media to over sensationalize and take a bunch of emotional photos. Of course confrontation is what the media prefers. It really doesn’t matter at this point in terms of outcome...it’s trumps fault always. We get it.

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