Media Bias

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Donald Trump just held the weirdest Cabinet meeting ever - CNNPolitics.com

this is the type of stuff that really is insane. who thinks this is a good idea to have a scripted, faux circle jerk like this? waste of time

Be careful Chico, you're quoting CNN. Fake news!

Also here's a shot of Trump from his cabinet meeting:

[Chico23231]

The political hate in this country has to end. We need to be able to express our difference in views and policy in a way where we listen first, listen second, **think** and respond. Today isn't about left vs right...dem vs rep...but a realization this has to end. Guilt is a two way street on both sides.

Social media and mainstream media has really stoked the flames of this political hate, we need to realize it. We shouldn't support media that has become more of an institution of sowing discord in order to profit. Trying to write narratives that divide the landscape of the country is wrong and simply false...and it a definite contributing factor in this violence.

Even though I may disagree with some folks like mooby and giantone, there is no way I dislike these guys.

And what happened today is not terrorism. this is rhetoric. I say this is a opportunity to say hey, lets step back a second.

[mooby]

I also agree that violence doesn't solve anything, in fact in regards to today it's only going to make things worse. It would be nice if today was used as an opportunity to bridge the gap, but I'm sure people will use it as an opportunity to blame the other side for taking it to the extreme. It should never come to this, hopefully we aren't all lumped in together.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I also agree that violence doesn't solve anything, in fact in regards to today it's only going to make things worse. It would be nice if today was used as an opportunity to bridge the gap, but I'm sure people will use it as an opportunity to blame the other side for taking it to the extreme. It should never come to this, hopefully we aren't all lumped in together.

agree. We need to say, how did we come to this? finger pointing isn't gonna work

[Chico23231]

Paul Ryan: 'An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us' | Fox News

Paul Ryan effing nails it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Paul Ryan: 'An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us' | Fox News

Paul Ryan effing nails it.

I agree but it all starts at the top .He needs to lead by example .

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree but it all starts at the top .He needs to lead by example .

Trump did well yesterday...or are your falling in with the typical "this is Trump's fault" rhetoric from some yesterday on social media?

I think we've seen enough killing from the Alt-left in the last year...Dallas Police shootings, the rampage in California a couple months ago, and yesterday.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I agree, but the bar is so damn low. Just keep waiting for him later on to say, "Wasn't the speech I gave amazing? America is united thanks to me."

[TheMalcolmConnection]

He's a "one baby step forward, 10000000000000 step back" kind of dude.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Trump did well yesterday...or are your falling in with the typical "this is Trump's fault" rhetoric from some yesterday on social media?

I think we've seen enough killing from the Alt-left in the last year...Dallas Police shootings, the rampage in California a couple months ago, and yesterday.

I liked your unity speech Chico, but do we really need to sit here and act like all the extremes are on one side? I guess all those racist lone-wolfers don't count because they didn't pile up enough bodies? Every group, doesn't matter which side of the table, will always have a small percentage of people that are extremists. Every religion, every political group. This was an opportunity for people to set aside their political differences to come together for the common good, aka not dying because of their beliefs. I guess it's too late for that shit though. Carry on.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Trump did well yesterday...or are your falling in with the typical "this is Trump's fault" rhetoric from some yesterday on social media?

I think we've seen enough killing from the Alt-left in the last year...Dallas Police shootings, the rampage in California a couple months ago, and yesterday.

Don't look now but guess who is finger pointing?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I liked your unity speech Chico, but do we really need to sit here and act like all the extremes are on one side? I guess all those racist lone-wolfers don't count because they didn't pile up enough bodies? Every group, doesn't matter which side of the table, will always have a small percentage of people that are extremists. Every religion, every political group. This was an opportunity for people to set aside their political differences to come together for the common good, aka not dying because of their beliefs. I guess it's too late for that shit though. Carry on.

Crazies on both sides, absolutely true. But I think a major misconception should be addressed; liberal moral high ground. Right now I think you see a lot of the progressive movement (2010-now) what you saw in the religious right movement (1986ish-92) in the GOP. A lot of hypocrisy. Simply don't have the time to get into it...but the arrogance is quite frankly, disappointing. I think the intellectual elitism element was effectively crushed by the Trump election..."we can never lose this, we are too smart, how could we lose to Donald Trump? we got this election"...etc. That part of it is dead, intellectual high ground was promptly defeated at that point.


But the moral high ground...has had a strong argument thanks to George Dubwah. But right now you cant claim pacifism but continue to conduct political violence; You cant claim equality, but then restrict people's free speech; etc.


Not saying his act was politically motivated, but the insane piece of garbage in Portland who stabbed the heroes who came to the defense of the Muslims...Another Bernie supporter.





Step back yes...I think the mainstream media should be the first to do so. I also think labeling and language is a big part. Honesty probably the biggest part of doing so (president Trump Im looking at you too). Do we think "fake news" is a term that was born overnight? No...people have been very skeptical since Fox news became a standard for right-leaning journalism. But isn't it ironic how that kinda lead the way and the response from other news sources was to pick a side? So the media and its bias coverage did it to itself. And now there mad at being called out on it? really? Its extremely interesting time we live in.

Perfect example of Bias...what big piece of information is missing in the headline and the body of this article:Threatening letter sent to congressional candidate's home - CNNPolitics.com

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Crazies on both sides, absolutely true. But I think a major misconception should be addressed; liberal moral high ground. Right now I think you see a lot of the progressive movement (2010-now) what you saw in the religious right movement (1986ish-92) in the GOP. A lot of hypocrisy. Simply don't have the time to get into it...but the arrogance is quite frankly, disappointing. I think the intellectual elitism element was effectively crushed by the Trump election..."we can never lose this, we are too smart, how could we lose to Donald Trump? we got this election"...etc. That part of it is dead, intellectual high ground was promptly defeated at that point.


But the moral high ground...has had a strong argument thanks to George Dubwah. But right now you cant claim pacifism but continue to conduct political violence; You cant claim equality, but then restrict people's free speech; etc.


Not saying his act was politically motivated, but the insane piece of garbage in Portland who stabbed the heroes who came to the defense of the Muslims...Another Bernie supporter.





Step back yes...I think the mainstream media should be the first to do so. I also think labeling and language is a big part. Honesty probably the biggest part of doing so (president Trump Im looking at you too). Do we think "fake news" is a term that was born overnight? No...people have been very skeptical since Fox news became a standard for right-leaning journalism. But isn't it ironic how that kinda lead the way and the response from other news sources was to pick a side? So the media and its bias coverage did it to itself. And now there mad at being called out on it? really? Its extremely interesting time we live in.

Perfect example of Bias...what big piece of information is missing in the headline and the body of this article:Threatening letter sent to congressional candidate's home - CNNPolitics.com

You want people to blame someone fine,like I said it needs to start at the top first.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.9cf49b427da1

Donald Trump is role model; kids try hate speech | The Sacramento Bee


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/06/...-speech-signs/




.....how long before this looney gets his gun?


Keep pointing fingers Chico.





It's always the left isn't it Chico.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UALOMSIiSc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxHp8Hughd0

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Crazies on both sides, absolutely true. But I think a major misconception should be addressed; liberal moral high ground. Right now I think you see a lot of the progressive movement (2010-now) what you saw in the religious right movement (1986ish-92) in the GOP. A lot of hypocrisy. Simply don't have the time to get into it...but the arrogance is quite frankly, disappointing. I think the intellectual elitism element was effectively crushed by the Trump election..."we can never lose this, we are too smart, how could we lose to Donald Trump? we got this election"...etc. That part of it is dead, intellectual high ground was promptly defeated at that point.


But the moral high ground...has had a strong argument thanks to George Dubwah. But right now you cant claim pacifism but continue to conduct political violence; You cant claim equality, but then restrict people's free speech; etc.


Not saying his act was politically motivated, but the insane piece of garbage in Portland who stabbed the heroes who came to the defense of the Muslims...Another Bernie supporter.





Step back yes...I think the mainstream media should be the first to do so. I also think labeling and language is a big part. Honesty probably the biggest part of doing so (president Trump Im looking at you too). Do we think "fake news" is a term that was born overnight? No...people have been very skeptical since Fox news became a standard for right-leaning journalism. But isn't it ironic how that kinda lead the way and the response from other news sources was to pick a side? So the media and its bias coverage did it to itself. And now there mad at being called out on it? really? Its extremely interesting time we live in.

Perfect example of Bias...what big piece of information is missing in the headline and the body of this article:Threatening letter sent to congressional candidate's home - CNNPolitics.com

I agree on your first point, if the left wants to win the next election (or even just swing some seats in Congress) they need to stop mocking Trump's voter base and try to find some common ground with them. I am certainly guilty of mocking Americans that I consider not as smart as myself, so feel free to lump me in with the left on this one. The forgotten middle class American that turned to Trump because the left (and specifically Hilldawg) ignored them is the major reason he won. It's a lot easier said than done though, and quite honestly my biggest hope is that eventually, in a few years, they will realize Trump has duped them along with every high ranking politician of the last few years.

Also I need to mention I didn't see or hear anything that the racist Portland stabber was a Bernie supporter. I did see the crazy shit he was talking during his court appearance and have read the transcripts from the shit he was talking in the patrol car, and it seems to me he just has mental health issues, so I'm not sure it's fair to talk about him like he's a sane guy who stabbed people in the name of his beliefs. So tl;dr, please back that up with a reputable source, aka no Breitbart or The Blaze.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The political hate in this country has to end. We need to be able to express our difference in views and policy in a way where we listen first, listen second, **think** and respond. Today isn't about left vs right...dem vs rep...but a realization this has to end. Guilt is a two way street on both sides.

Social media and mainstream media has really stoked the flames of this political hate, we need to realize it. We shouldn't support media that has become more of an institution of sowing discord in order to profit. Trying to write narratives that divide the landscape of the country is wrong and simply false...and it a definite contributing factor in this violence.

Even though I may disagree with some folks like mooby and giantone, there is no way I dislike these guys.

And what happened today is not terrorism. this is rhetoric. I say this is a opportunity to say hey, lets step back a second.

Couldnt agree more,I've never seen so much hate about a candidate and Facebook takes it up to a whole new level