Coronavirus (political)

[Chico23231]

Absolutely clown show that CNN is finally reporting China lied about Covid after parroting communist talking points for almost a year....some did the same here...

So I guess trump was right now?

[SunnySide]

Jan. 22, Twitter:

“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

Jan. 24, Twitter:

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Jan. 29, Remarks at signing ceremony for the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement:

“And, honestly, I think, as tough as this negotiation was, I think our relationship with China now might be the best it's been in a long, long time. And now it's reciprocal. Before, we were being ripped off badly. Now we have a reciprocal relationship, maybe even better than reciprocal for us.”

Jan. 30, Fox News interview:

"China is not in great shape right now, unfortunately. But they're working very hard. We'll see what happens. But we're working very closely with China and other countries."

Feb. 7, Remarks at North Carolina Opportunity Now Summit in Charlotte, N.C.:

"I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."

Feb. 7, Twitter:

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days … Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!

Feb. 7, Remarks before Marine One departure:

"Late last night, I had a very good talk with President Xi, and we talked about — mostly about the coronavirus. They're working really hard, and I think they are doing a very professional job. They're in touch with World — the World — World Organization. CDC also. We're working together. But World Health is working with them. CDC is working with them. I had a great conversation last night with President Xi. It's a tough situation. I think they're doing a very good job.”

Feb. 10, Fox Business interview:


"I think China is very, you know, professionally run in the sense that they have everything under control," Trump said. "I really believe they are going to have it under control fairly soon. You know in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that's a beautiful date to look forward to. But China I can tell you is working very hard."

Feb. 10, campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.:

“I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s all going to work out fine.”

Feb. 13, Fox News interview:

“I think they've handled it professionally and I think they're extremely capable and I think President Xi is extremely capable and I hope that it's going to be resolved."

Feb. 18, remarks before Air Force One departure:

“I think President Xi is working very hard. As you know, I spoke with him recently. He’s working really hard. It’s a tough problem. I think he’s going to do — look, I’ve seen them build hospitals in a short period of time. I really believe he wants to get that done, and he wants to get it done fast. Yes, I think he’s doing it very professionally.”

Feb. 23, remarks before Marine One departure:

"I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He's working very hard. I think he's doing a very good job. It's a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He's working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem. OK?"

Feb. 26, remarks at a business roundtable in New Delhi, India:

“China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control.”

Feb. 27, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

“I spoke with President Xi. We had a great talk. He’s working very hard, I have to say. He’s working very, very hard. And if you can count on the reports coming out of China, that spread has gone down quite a bit. The infection seems to have gone down over the last two days. As opposed to getting larger, it’s actually gotten smaller.”

Feb. 29, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

“China seems to be making tremendous progress. Their numbers are way down. … I think our relationship with China is very good. We just did a big trade deal. We’re starting on another trade deal with China — a very big one. And we’ve been working very closely. They’ve been talking to our people, we’ve been talking to their people, having to do with the virus.”

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But is it still about proving whether Trump was right or wrong? I think that game has been played, a winner declared and its put back in the box and tucked deep into the closet.

trump .. what he says or what he does .. doesnt matter anymore. pack your shit, take your mail order American hating gold digging wife and move down to Mar a Lago and choke on some Big Macs while your greasy fat sausage fingers type out misspelled tweets.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Jan. 22, Twitter:

“One of the many great things about our just signed giant Trade Deal with China is that it will bring both the USA & China closer together in so many other ways. Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

Jan. 24, Twitter:

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Jan. 29, Remarks at signing ceremony for the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement:

“And, honestly, I think, as tough as this negotiation was, I think our relationship with China now might be the best it's been in a long, long time. And now it's reciprocal. Before, we were being ripped off badly. Now we have a reciprocal relationship, maybe even better than reciprocal for us.”

Jan. 30, Fox News interview:

"China is not in great shape right now, unfortunately. But they're working very hard. We'll see what happens. But we're working very closely with China and other countries."

Feb. 7, Remarks at North Carolina Opportunity Now Summit in Charlotte, N.C.:

"I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."

Feb. 7, Twitter:

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days … Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!

Feb. 7, Remarks before Marine One departure:

"Late last night, I had a very good talk with President Xi, and we talked about — mostly about the coronavirus. They're working really hard, and I think they are doing a very professional job. They're in touch with World — the World — World Organization. CDC also. We're working together. But World Health is working with them. CDC is working with them. I had a great conversation last night with President Xi. It's a tough situation. I think they're doing a very good job.”

Feb. 10, Fox Business interview:


"I think China is very, you know, professionally run in the sense that they have everything under control," Trump said. "I really believe they are going to have it under control fairly soon. You know in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that's a beautiful date to look forward to. But China I can tell you is working very hard."

Feb. 10, campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.:

“I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s all going to work out fine.”

Feb. 13, Fox News interview:

“I think they've handled it professionally and I think they're extremely capable and I think President Xi is extremely capable and I hope that it's going to be resolved."

Feb. 18, remarks before Air Force One departure:

“I think President Xi is working very hard. As you know, I spoke with him recently. He’s working really hard. It’s a tough problem. I think he’s going to do — look, I’ve seen them build hospitals in a short period of time. I really believe he wants to get that done, and he wants to get it done fast. Yes, I think he’s doing it very professionally.”

Feb. 23, remarks before Marine One departure:

"I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He's working very hard. I think he's doing a very good job. It's a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He's working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem. OK?"

Feb. 26, remarks at a business roundtable in New Delhi, India:

“China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control.”

Feb. 27, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

“I spoke with President Xi. We had a great talk. He’s working very hard, I have to say. He’s working very, very hard. And if you can count on the reports coming out of China, that spread has gone down quite a bit. The infection seems to have gone down over the last two days. As opposed to getting larger, it’s actually gotten smaller.”

Feb. 29, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

“China seems to be making tremendous progress. Their numbers are way down. … I think our relationship with China is very good. We just did a big trade deal. We’re starting on another trade deal with China — a very big one. And we’ve been working very closely. They’ve been talking to our people, we’ve been talking to their people, having to do with the virus.”

----

But is it still about proving whether Trump was right or wrong? I think that game has been played, a winner declared and its put back in the box and tucked deep into the closet.

trump .. what he says or what he does .. doesnt matter anymore. pack your shit, take your mail order American hating gold digging wife and move down to Mar a Lago and choke on some Big Macs while your greasy fat sausage fingers type out misspelled tweets.

Thanks for proving my point, China lied to the US, WHO and directly to the President. Yes tweets trying to calm the public about the virus were wrong i guess.

China could have contained 95% of the spread if they would have followed a WHO protocol. That’s a fact

People here actually defended China. Biden and Pelosi called trump a bigot for shutting down travel to China.

We are delivering a vaccine in less than 10 months...remarkable

[SolidSnake84]

Can someone please explain to me as a complete Layman, what the expectation level is towards the FDA, and whether or not they approve the Covid vaccines?

Is the expectation among industry / medical / scientific people right now that FDA approval is granted without any issue?

or is this more of a shot in the dark, desperation type attempt?

intelligent WP'ers, what do you see happening?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Thanks for proving my point, China lied to the US, WHO and directly to the President. Yes tweets trying to calm the public about the virus were wrong i guess.

China could have contained 95% of the spread if they would have followed a WHO protocol. That’s a fact

People here actually defended China. Biden and Pelosi called trump a bigot for shutting down travel to China.

We are delivering a vaccine in less than 10 months...remarkable

chico, please stop, just stop.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Can someone please explain to me as a complete Layman, what the expectation level is towards the FDA, and whether or not they approve the Covid vaccines?

Is the expectation among industry / medical / scientific people right now that FDA approval is granted without any issue?

or is this more of a shot in the dark, desperation type attempt?

intelligent WP'ers, what do you see happening?

I'm not an intelligent WP'er so feel free to disregard, but shouldn't it be the CDC leading the process to approve a potential vaccine?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm not an intelligent WP'er so feel free to disregard, but shouldn't it be the CDC leading the process to approve a potential vaccine?

No, the FDA is in charge of approving the vaccine, not the CDC.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

No, the FDA is in charge of approving the vaccine, not the CDC.

Thanks for clarifying.

I haven't seen anything that indicates this is being rushed without following proper procedures for vaccines. And if the right people (Fauci for me) endorsed it that would be good enough for me. I expect it to be politicized though, and every conservative who thinks Fauci is worthless to disagree with me on that.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

Thanks for clarifying.

I haven't seen anything that indicates this is being rushed without following proper procedures for vaccines. And if the right people (Fauci for me) endorsed it that would be good enough for me. I expect it to be politicized though, and every conservative who thinks Fauci is worthless to disagree with me on that.

Dr. Fauci does believe in them, and Obama has even offered to take the vaccine on TV along with his family to try and re-assure people that everything is okay with it and it is safe.

I suppose now with the UK approving it, the race is on for the other countries to approve / roll out. Canada is expected to approve within days, followed by Spain and Mexico, from what I have read. If approved, i have the USA finishing fourth or later. I guess the thing that I can't understand, is that how a vaccine that was developed and produced in America, was approved for use in foreign countries before it was here. Just strange, IMO.

[MTK]

Different countries = different approval processes

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by MTK

Different countries = different approval processes

So do you feel comfortable that the FDA will approve one or more of the vaccines who have submitted EUA requests? Is there any scenario where all of the other countries have the vaccines but we don't?

[MTK]

Haven't given it much thought to be honest, but the vaccines seem to be on track to be approved here.

[Chico23231]

Anti Vaxxers sharping swords...

Can we all agree not getting vaccinated is dumb?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Anti Vaxxers sharping swords...

Can we all agree not getting vaccinated is dumb?

Beyond dumb

The anti vax crowd is right up there with flat earthers as far as missing brain cells go

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Anti Vaxxers sharping swords...

Can we all agree not getting vaccinated is dumb?

Definitely something I hope we can all agree on. I feel like there's gotta be at least one person here who is anti-vaccer though.