Washington Wizards 2010-2011 Ongoing Thread

[over the mountain]

from parts of the game i saw, defense and hustle were non-existent. John Wall rightfully said before the game that in order for this team to stay competitve, they must take care of the things they can control like hustle and energy to make up for the things they cant control like lack of overall skill, etc.

they need a michael ruffin type to come in, show them what hard work, proper positioning and scrappiness looks like.

im going to try and follow them some this year, i find young down-right bad teams like this interesting in the sense of how the coach and team game plan.

[mooby]

Anybody watch the 'Zards home opener tonight? Wall was crazy, 29 points, 13 assists, and 9 steals. Not only was he one steal away from a triple double, he tied the franchise record with 9 steals, and also tied an NBA record with 31 assists in his first 3 games. And I haven't even mentioned the best part yet, we came back in overtime to beat the 76ers! It was so back and forth for a while I thought if the Wizards didn't make a stop sooner or later they'd lose the game, but they stopped the 76ers on their last offensive possession to win by 1. And Cartier Martin had the clutch 3 at the end of regulation to tie the game. Definitely exciting and it was nice to see this young team step up,especially when the 76ers were bringing the Heat (Lou Williams was on fire in the 4th) and get the win.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by mooby

Anybody watch the 'Zards home opener tonight? Wall was crazy, 29 points, 13 assists, and 9 steals. Not only was he one steal away from a triple double, he tied the franchise record with 9 steals, and also tied an NBA record with 31 assists in his first 3 games. And I haven't even mentioned the best part yet, we came back in overtime to beat the 76ers! It was so back and forth for a while I thought if the Wizards didn't make a stop sooner or later they'd lose the game, but they stopped the 76ers on their last offensive possession to win by 1. And Cartier Martin had the clutch 3 at the end of regulation to tie the game. Definitely exciting and it was nice to see this young team step up,especially when the 76ers were bringing the Heat (Lou Williams was on fire in the 4th) and get the win.

Most impressive about Wall? When told of his 9 steals, his first comment was "Yeah, but I had 8 turnovers." The kid just gets it.

[InsaneBoost]

Yeah and a couple of them came at a crucial time too, but he tore it up, definitely kept us in the game.

[over the mountain]

sheet, i missed the game. wall brought alot of energy and intensity when he was with UK. seems like the kid LOVES bball. im so happy the wizards got him, im just happy therre was legit no 1 overall talent for them to draft.

who does wall compare to? i always think d wade with less power at the rim but more defense.

[Monkeydad]

[mooby]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Most impressive about Wall? When told of his 9 steals, his first comment was "Yeah, but I had 8 turnovers." The kid just gets it.

Man, I totally forgot to mention that. I love that he already has his head on his shoulders. It says so much that that was the first thing on his mind after the game. I'm so glad we got this kid.

@Buster: Did you read Steinberg's post on what Colin Cowherd had to say about Wall doing the Dougie when his introduction came up? I know he says it just to get us riled up but it's so annoying.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mooby

Man, I totally forgot to mention that. I love that he already has his head on his shoulders. It says so much that that was the first thing on his mind after the game. I'm so glad we got this kid.

@Buster: Did you read Steinberg's post on what Colin Cowherd had to say about Wall doing the Dougie when his introduction came up? I know he says it just to get us riled up but it's so annoying.

I've mentioned before here that I like Cowherd a lot off the air. And I can generally tell when he's just saying stuff to joke around...but I honestly don't know what he was thinking with his Wall comments. I totally disagree. Rondo is probably better than Wall right now but give it time.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've mentioned before here that I like Cowherd a lot off the air. And I can generally tell when he's just saying stuff to joke around...but I honestly don't know what he was thinking with his Wall comments. I totally disagree. Rondo is probably better than Wall right now but give it time.

I like alot of what CC sais, but you can tell he just goes w/ an opinion, almost w/out thinking it out. Then he goes on and on and on. He's not Nostradomus, he's just a sports guy w/ an opinion. No biggie. As the article mentions, his facts are wrong. You can't compare a rookie to a 4th year guy anyways.

I watched it live (at home), and I was thinking WTF is he doing, but then I just started laughing. Again, no biggie, I doubt he'll do it every night.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've mentioned before here that I like Cowherd a lot off the air. And I can generally tell when he's just saying stuff to joke around...but I honestly don't know what he was thinking with his Wall comments. I totally disagree. Rondo is probably better than Wall right now but give it time.

As Steinberg proved, Cowherd is completely wrong with his opinion of Wall, but I feel like this time is one of those times when he's just saying it to get everybody riled up. Because if he didn't that'd be pretty lazy of him to just jump to a conclusion like that without checking the facts first. I would think if he was going to say what he said about Wall he'd definitely check his facts first, and then go ahead with it.

And pretty much everybody agrees you can't compare Rondo to Wall. Wall's 3 games in his NBA career, Rondo is in his 4th year. I'll wait until Wall's in his 4th year before I look back at his career vs. Rondo's in a "1st four seasons side by side comparison" standpoint.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've mentioned before here that I like Cowherd a lot off the air. And I can generally tell when he's just saying stuff to joke around...but I honestly don't know what he was thinking with his Wall comments. I totally disagree. Rondo is probably better than Wall right now but give it time.

Probably? Rondo is the top PG in the NBA right now. He's playing at an insane level. Had a triple-double with 24 assists! AVERAGING over 16 ast/gm and he's always near the league lead in steals too.

[Duffman003]

Originally Posted by Buster

Probably? Rondo is the top PG in the NBA right now. He's playing at an insane level. Had a triple-double with 24 assists! AVERAGING over 16 ast/gm and he's always near the league lead in steals too.

It's a lot easier to average 16 assists in a game with three hall of famers on the floor with you.
Rando is good, but he has so much more talent with him, than Wall does.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Buster

Probably? Rondo is the top PG in the NBA right now. He's playing at an insane level. Had a triple-double with 24 assists! AVERAGING over 16 ast/gm and he's always near the league lead in steals too.

I still put Deron Williams as the top PG in the league because he gets those 12-14 assists here and there averaging over 10 a game right now, is 10x better at the jump shot, has similar explosiveness as Rondo, because of his unique strength and speed there are very few pg's that match up well with him, and he does all of that despite not really having anyone else around him whereas like it was said before Rondo has 3 other All-Stars around him, 2 of which will be HOFers.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Duffman003

It's a lot easier to average 16 assists in a game with three hall of famers on the floor with you.
Rando is good, but he has so much more talent with him, than Wall does.

Those HOFers, except for Pierce, are nowhere near what they once were. Garnett is even a liability at times. Rondo is the real star on that team now.


I agree, Deron Williams is in the discussion of top PG in the league. Derrick Rose also. If Chris Paul could stay healthy, he would be too.

Wall could be in the mix in a year or two.

[SmootSmack]

I realize it was against the Rockets but John Wall was redonkulous tonight

Houston Rockets vs. Washington Wizards - Box Score - November 10, 2010 - ESPN