Around the NFL Week 1.

[Chico23231]

Outside of the Bills loss...which was an embarrassment to the sport

The Detroit Lions were a complete and utter dumpster fire. Matt Patricia debut as a coach...he was completely over his head.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...-tree-to-flop/

"We were calling out their plays as he was getting up to the line," linebacker Darron Lee said of quarterback Matthew Stafford, via ESPN.com. "We knew his signals. We knew everything. That's just preparation as a defense. ... It seemed like we were in his head as a defense."

First game of the season...and they are using old signals OR they didn't change them from preseason? Oh wow...Quality Control folks. One side horrible, the other side excellent.

Great beards don't equal wins.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Outside of the Bills loss...which was an embarrassment to the sport

The Detroit Lions were a complete and utter dumpster fire. Matt Patricia debut as a coach...he was completely over his head.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...-tree-to-flop/

"We were calling out their plays as he was getting up to the line," linebacker Darron Lee said of quarterback Matthew Stafford, via ESPN.com. "We knew his signals. We knew everything. That's just preparation as a defense. ... It seemed like we were in his head as a defense."

First game of the season...and they are using old signals OR they didn't change them from preseason? Oh wow...Quality Control folks. One side horrible, the other side excellent.

Great beards don't equal wins.

Belichick, like Gibbs, great coaches in themselves, but never have been able to grow a great coaching tree beneath them.

[SFREDSKIN]

How about giving Patricia more than 1 game, how about a season. Stafford killed him yesterday.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Any QB does if there is no O line.

After watching Eli this past week I'd have to say the Giants should have drafted a QB. He simply can't move around at all and with that line he's just a sitting duck back there. You can see that he has happy feet.

[skinsfan69]

The Raiders seriously suck. They has zero defense. Paying Gruden all that money ain't fixing their defense.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How about giving Patricia more than 1 game, how about a season. Stafford killed him yesterday.

It was a pretty horrible start, though. And with the Jet's defense knowing what was going to happen before it happens, that's a coaching issue, not on Stafford in my opinion. Then again, Stafford also sucked.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

After watching Eli this past week I'd have to say the Giants should have drafted a QB. He simply can't move around at all and with that line he's just a sitting duck back there. You can see that he has happy feet.

I swear, on a couple of Eli throws he reminded me of Patrick Ramsey. Very flimsy throw...and never set. Still stands tall in the pock like Ramsey.

Problem with Eli is he isn't mobile at all...so you cant move the pocket, you cant boot, etc.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Raiders seriously suck. They has zero defense. Paying Gruden all that money ain't fixing their defense.

Dan Patrick had a really good take this morning, don't expect Derek Carr in Las Vegas. And last night he was a notch below Stafford....OVERPAID, below average QB.

Chucky is gonna want "his" guy at QB...terrible start for Carr. Plus, I don't know if I want a QB who wears mascara...Im very tolerant, but fuck that.

[skinsfaninok]

The raiders are rebuilding, Chucky was a bad choice and a desperate one by Davis.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The raiders are rebuilding, Chucky was a bad choice and a desperate one by Davis.

Chucky doesn’t know shit about QB’s, has always picked average to bad ones.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I see that from many QB's . I agree Eli has got to play better. He has used up his get out of jail card...if he screws up he is gone next year.

Eli is a statue and that hurts him at times but he still doesn't suck. I think he's
a pretty good QB.

Now, if anyone wants to talk about a really bad QB who played in that game, may I suggest Blake Bortles. I have no earthly idea what the Jags management could possibly see in him. He's going to cost them a possible Super Bowl win and they don't seem to have a clue. They had their chance to make a move at QB this past season and they blew it.

Back to the Giants. I see them as a team with a number of great and potentially great players without enough good players around them. Snacks, Collins, Beckham, and Barkley need help.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by metalskins

It was a pretty horrible start, though. And with the Jet's defense knowing what was going to happen before it happens, that's a coaching issue, not on Stafford in my opinion. Then again, Stafford also sucked.

Don't forget, the Jets offense trampled the Lions defense, too. It was a horror show all around for the Lions.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Chucky doesn’t know shit about QB’s, has always picked average to bad ones.

Gannon and Brad Johnson certainly played well for him.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Eli is a statue and that hurts him at times but he still doesn't suck. I think he's
a pretty good QB.

Now, if anyone wants to talk about a really bad QB who played in that game, may I suggest Blake Bortles. I have no earthly idea what the Jags management could possibly see in him. He's going to cost them a possible Super Bowl win and they don't seem to have a clue. They had their chance to make a move at QB this past season and they blew it.

Back to the Giants. I see them as a team with a number of great and potentially great players without enough good players around them. Snacks, Collins, Beckham, and Barkley need help.

We agree.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by MTK

Gannon and Brad Johnson certainly played well for him.

Brad Johnson and Gannon were slightly above average, would much rather have kept Trent Green over Johnson and Gannon was a backup here.