Welfare Nation- One third of US wages now come from handouts

[GMScud]

This is pretty disturbing.
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[GMScud]

All these baby boomers reaching retirement age isn't helping of course...

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GMScud

All these baby boomers reaching retirement age isn't helping of course...

If the government did not steel our SS money to use for everything else SS would not be in any trouble. What the government did with our SS money is no different then what Bernard Madoff did with investors money. Yet the dumb public have no problem with the government misappropriating funds but wanted Madoff to hang.

[mlmpetert]

I love me a entitlement discussion……

My beef with entitlement programs have nothing to do with the people that take free money, in fact to some degree I admire them. From the girl that says I might as well have another baby cause I aint working anyway to the kid posting pics on facebook of all the cool places he’s visiting around the country while on unemployment (its state of mind, brah). I believe its your duty as a patriot to take all that you are entitled to, just as much as it is to pay all that youre responsible for. In my mind how you use our “safety net” is purely discretionary.

I do however have a major problem with those that allow these programs to exist to the degree that they do. Its ridiculous that there’s ANY incentive whatsoever to stay unemployed longer than 1 month.

I was looking for a article I read a while back and couldn’t find it, but I did find this from heritage.org (a conservative site).

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/06/confronting-the-unsustainable-growth-of-welfare-entitlements-principles-of-reform-and-the-next-steps

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by GMScud

This is pretty disturbing. I wonder what would happen if they required drug tests in order to receive welfare/unemployment...

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You be suprised who is receving welfare........ Doubt drugs have anything to do with it.

[MTK]

On a related note ever wonder how many employed people are on drugs?

Probably way more than we think.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

On a related note ever wonder how many employed people are on drugs?

Probably way more than we think.

There are millions of....functional alcoholics and addicts.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

On a related note ever wonder how many employed people are on drugs?

Probably way more than we think.

that all depends on what is considered "drugs" and i would say probably around 60 to 70% rely on some form of a drug, i know i rely on a few, alcohol being the front runner.

this article is pretty disturbing, but does it surprise me? no. it's just a shame when people like my grandmother are having trouble affording their health care because of the lack of social security which she depends on(even though she works part time). while other people collect unemployment while sitting on their couch surfing the internet "looking" for a job, or taking their wellfare/unemployment checks and going to the mall. it just seems like everyone is looking for the easy way out any more, instead of sacking up and taking care of their own bussiness.

[724Skinsfan]

So what do you do when a person fails a drug test?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

So what do you do when a person fails a drug test?

I was sort of thinking out loud when I mentioned the drug test thing. I just wonder how many welfare/unemployment collectors are being enabled to an extent by their benefits.

I certainly didn't want to make this a thread about people who receive any type of gov't handouts taking drug tests.

I'm going to edit the OP.

[over the mountain]

I went through the avail programs in Md to see if someone I know would qualify. What I found was you can sit on our arse with no job, have kids and you get about 800 every 2 weeks on top of almost free living, food, health care and clothing vouchers. Now you have to live in section 8, go through specific med clinics or hospitals (like JHU).

If you make over 18-21k, you get nothing.

I whole heartedly support drug screening to receive any type of gov't benefits and req people on unemployment to perform community service (like some european countries).

Too many people who have contributed absolutely nothing in the form of taxes or benefit to society eat up the most gov't benefits imo while others who work hard but dont make alot of money get caught in the gray area of not being poor enough to qualify but dont make enough to pay necessary things in life like health ins, etc.

I also 100% support cutting gov't wages and benefits. They have pension plans that are antiquated and comparatively outrageous compared to the priv sector. I have to deal with alot of gov't employees. Ive been a gov't employee. They know they have it cush and generally dont give a dang. If they had their work ethic in the priv sector they would be fired. But since their gov't employees they get credit breaks, health care breaks, guaranteed pension plans and work half as hard as the rest of us.

ps - I have family who live exclusively off the gov't. When we cant wire them money for food or medications it is nice to know that they can go to the hospital and get free meds but something has to change.

[mlmdub130]

^^guess i should try and go file some unemployment papers and sit on my ass and instead of trying to find a new job

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

^^guess i should try and go file some unemployment papers and sit on my ass and instead of trying to find a new job

You cant; you didnt get laid off, you quit.

If i could quit and collect unemployement i would of long along..... Think about it im wasting my 20's working!!??!?!

[MTK]

I'd rather focus on the problems centering around the handouts and welfare that corporations get.

eRiposte Economy - Tax : Corporate Welfare

Corporate Versus Social Welfare

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd rather focus on the problems centering around the handouts and welfare that corporations get.

eRiposte Economy - Tax : Corporate Welfare

Corporate Versus Social Welfare

Funny your second link talked about all the bank bail outs but I thought Obama said this money was all paid back. Both links also seem to ignore the Taxes created by the products and services of these corporations. You then have the employees hired by these corporations and the taxes they pay. Corporations also buy good that they pay taxes on and their employees support businesses located around the corp. Corps also have to pay taxes on their inventory and other property owned by the corp. Big difference between the two and the links you provide ignore more facts then they show.