new drilling in the U.S

dmek25 · 03-31-2010, 07:09 AM

Obama to allow oil drilling off Virginia Move is a reversal of a long-standing ban, but President Obama will also reject some new Alaskan sites.

mredskins · 03-31-2010, 09:24 AM

When I went to Santa Barbara in January it was so pretty expect for the oil rigs that cultured the view. It was so weird to see these huge ugly things in the middle of paradise.

Schneed10 · 03-31-2010, 09:25 AM

Nice. A common sense and centrist move. I like it.

dmek25 · 03-31-2010, 09:31 AM

im trying to figure out how firstdown will hate this? too little, too late, too early, not enough, too much.....

mredskins · 03-31-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

im trying to figure out how firstdown will hate this? too little, too late, too early, not enough, too much.....

It will get in the way of his fishing trips and the sound of the drilling will reach the mainland and his 3 year old daughter will no longer be able to sleep from 8pm to noon the next day. =) I am sure there is more.

CRedskinsRule · 03-31-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

im trying to figure out how firstdown will hate this? too little, too late, too early, not enough, too much.....

Virginia's governor was already going to do this, Obama is simply trying to take glory for something the Republicans were doing.

joethiesmanfan · 03-31-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Virginia's governor was already going to do this, Obama is simply trying to take glory for something the Republicans were doing.

I forgot state's rights trump federal law in some people's minds.

saden1 · 03-31-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Virginia's governor was already going to do this, Obama is simply trying to take glory for something the Republicans were doing.

Are you serious? You do know that Virginia Governor can't actually permit sea drilling right? Sure, he can write and grant whatever he wants but that doesn't mean there is any teeth behind it. Read the Constitution.

firstdown · 03-31-2010, 12:04 PM

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Are you serious? You do know that Virginia Governor can't actually permit sea drilling right? Sure, he can write and grant whatever he wants but that doesn't mean there is any teeth behind it. Read the Constitution.

The reason the gov. was moving foward on this is because Bush lifted the ban back in 2008. Gov. Timothy Kain a Dem. backed the idea and started moving foward to start drilling a couple years back.

saden1 · 03-31-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

The reason the gov. was moving foward on this is because Bush lifted the ban back in 2008. Gov. Timothy Kain a Dem. backed the idea and started moving foward to start drilling a couple years back.

Like 12thMan Bush's lifting of the executive order ban was merely symbolic. There are federal laws on the books that need to be relaxed or reversed for anyone's to do any sort of ocean drilling. Congress has the power to do something. Not the president, not the governors, not anyone but congress.

CRedskinsRule · 03-31-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Are you serious? You do know that Virginia Governor can't actually permit sea drilling right? Sure, he can write and grant whatever he wants but that doesn't mean there is any teeth behind it. Read the Constitution.

No need to get all in a tizzy Mr. Saden. I was responding with my tongue in cheek guess on FD's response, but again, the Constitution, last I checked doesn't specifically mention off-shore drilling, and so an elastic clause/10th amendment debate is just too much for me this morning.

saden1 · 03-31-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No need to get all in a tizzy Mr. Saden. I was responding with my tongue in cheek guess on FD's response, but again, the Constitution, last I checked doesn't specifically mention off-shore drilling, and so an elastic clause/10th amendment debate is just too much for me this morning.

It mentions who has admiralty and maritime jurisdiction and that's all the Constitution needs to do. It doesn't have to talk about fishing or drilling or anything else. Save your energy, no need to debate Section 2 of Article III.

12thMan · 03-31-2010, 10:06 AM

More radical liberalism from Obama. Seriously, I think there's some common sense politics and economics at play here.

I think the president is willing to bend on a campaign promise to make America less oil dependent and hopefully garner some bi-partisan support on his energy policy. The left will see this as him caving in (folks are fuming this morning), and the right will hopefully see this as an olive branch. We'll need more oil in ten years whether we drill or not, so why not go for it.

Drill, baby, drill!!

GMScud · 03-31-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

More radical liberalism from Obama. Seriously, I think there's some common sense politics and economics at play here.

I think the president is willing to bend on a campaign promise to make America less oil dependent and hopefully garner some bi-partisan support on his energy policy. The left will see this as him caving in (folks are fuming this morning), and the right will hopefully see this as an olive branch. We'll need more oil in ten years whether we drill or not, so why not go for it.

Drill, baby, drill!!

Noooo, really?

JoeRedskin · 03-31-2010, 10:14 AM

Actually, this is linked to Obamacare and the socialist plot to overthrow the West. --

By limiting the enviromental protections currently in place, Obama allows for independent oil companies to wildcat and, thus, create more wealth in small companies and individuals. Once this new wealth has been "maldistributed" by these enterprising capitalists, they will have their incomes "corrected" by its redistribution through the cadillac tax imposed on the wealthy as part of the health care plan.

These new oil barons will object to the stripping of their new found wealth and will call for a change of government by joining the Tea Party movement. Obama will then hold them up as an example of all that is bad with capitalism by asserting that they only got their wealth through the government's actions.

Using this as a catalyst, Obama will then assert that all Republicans are neccessarily governed by self interest and that only the Democrats care for the "greater good". In furtherance of the "greater good", Obama will ban the Republican party after staging a burning of the Capitol and making it appear it was the work of the Tea Party as financed by the new oil barons.

Finally, Obama will then install himself as President for life and make the Democratic Ass the official State symbol.

It's soooo obvious!!!!

03-31-2010, 07:09 AM	#1
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	new drilling in the U.S Obama to allow oil drilling off Virginia Move is a reversal of a long-standing ban, but President Obama will also reject some new Alaskan sites. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-31-2010, 09:24 AM	#2
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,660	Re: new drilling in the U.S When I went to Santa Barbara in January it was so pretty expect for the oil rigs that cultured the view. It was so weird to see these huge ugly things in the middle of paradise. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

03-31-2010, 09:25 AM	#3
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: new drilling in the U.S Nice. A common sense and centrist move. I like it. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-31-2010, 09:31 AM	#4
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: new drilling in the U.S im trying to figure out how firstdown will hate this? too little, too late, too early, not enough, too much..... __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-31-2010, 10:06 AM	#13
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: new drilling in the U.S More radical liberalism from Obama. Seriously, I think there's some common sense politics and economics at play here. I think the president is willing to bend on a campaign promise to make America less oil dependent and hopefully garner some bi-partisan support on his energy policy. The left will see this as him caving in (folks are fuming this morning), and the right will hopefully see this as an olive branch. We'll need more oil in ten years whether we drill or not, so why not go for it. Drill, baby, drill!! Last edited by 12thMan; 03-31-2010 at 10:49 AM.

03-31-2010, 10:14 AM	#15
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	Re: new drilling in the U.S Actually, this is linked to Obamacare and the socialist plot to overthrow the West. -- By limiting the enviromental protections currently in place, Obama allows for independent oil companies to wildcat and, thus, create more wealth in small companies and individuals. Once this new wealth has been "maldistributed" by these enterprising capitalists, they will have their incomes "corrected" by its redistribution through the cadillac tax imposed on the wealthy as part of the health care plan. These new oil barons will object to the stripping of their new found wealth and will call for a change of government by joining the Tea Party movement. Obama will then hold them up as an example of all that is bad with capitalism by asserting that they only got their wealth through the government's actions. Using this as a catalyst, Obama will then assert that all Republicans are neccessarily governed by self interest and that only the Democrats care for the "greater good". In furtherance of the "greater good", Obama will ban the Republican party after staging a burning of the Capitol and making it appear it was the work of the Tea Party as financed by the new oil barons. Finally, Obama will then install himself as President for life and make the Democratic Ass the official State symbol. It's soooo obvious!!!! __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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