NASCAR: JGR caught cheating

skinsfan_nn · 08-17-2008, 10:00 PM

Magnets under the gas pedals, not very wise. Joe will not tolerate this type of conduct on his prized race team.

The guilty team members, crew chiefs/parties involved will pay a heavy price for there uncalled for actions. Yea, I know if your not cheating your not winning........crap

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Dlyne8r · 08-18-2008, 02:07 PM

Yeah, I don't think JG will take long in showing those responsible the door. This is nowhere near his M.O. However, if you were to poll all the teams in the garage I'd bet a months's salary that you would not find another team that doesn't stretch the rules...it's all part of the NASCAR culture. If this is true though, this was a little more than "stretching" the rules and there will be hell to pay.

DarkKnight · 08-18-2008, 02:22 PM

If they got caught cheating it starts from the Top, so he is responsible, he shouldnt get a free ride cause he's JG..........please

Daseal · 08-18-2008, 03:15 PM

Im with DK -- can't Give Gibbs all the credit for the good and deflect all blame for the bad. I'm sure it's a mixture of both.

GhettoDogAllStars · 08-18-2008, 03:27 PM

If this weren't Joe Gibbs, I'd say the owner had no idea what was going on. They aren't that involved in the day-to-day stuff.

However, I know Joe Gibbs likes to be involved, so perhaps he knew -- but, I doubt it. It's a dirty thing to do, and I think JG is a man of character. I don't know him personally though, so maybe I'm wrong.

firstdown · 08-19-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

If this weren't Joe Gibbs, I'd say the owner had no idea what was going on. They aren't that involved in the day-to-day stuff.

However, I know Joe Gibbs likes to be involved, so perhaps he knew -- but, I doubt it. It's a dirty thing to do, and I think JG is a man of character. I don't know him personally though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Yea, I bet Gibbs is under those cars turning wrenches and fighting his guts out!

SmootSmack · 08-18-2008, 03:35 PM

It's more than likely a case of a couple of crew members doing what they should not have done without any prodding from or knowledge by Joe or JD. However, if one would like to put the blame on a higher up in the organization it should be JD long before Joe. Joe Gibbs is not nearly as involved with the inner workings in the garage to the extend that JD Gibbs is.

Joe Gibbs involvement is more in terms of big picture/long term dealings (bringing in Kyle Busch, letting Tony Stewart go), sponsorships, marketing.

jsarno · 08-18-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's more than likely a case of a couple of crew members doing what they should not have done without any prodding from or knowledge by Joe or JD. However, if one would like to put the blame on a higher up in the organization it should be JD long before Joe. Joe Gibbs is not nearly as involved with the inner workings in the garage to the extend that JD Gibbs is.

Joe Gibbs involvement is more in terms of big picture/long term dealings (bringing in Kyle Busch, letting Tony Stewart go), sponsorships, marketing.

What I am not understanding is how this could happen across two separate teams. These kinds of issues are higher up issues...people that are involved in the whole team (JGR) not individual teams. This means JGR has a serious issue. I do not think Joe Gibbs himself would make this kind of call. However it would not shock me to see someone Gibbs trusts very much to be the culprit.

Daseal · 08-18-2008, 03:41 PM

I don't follow racing in the least, but Gibbs didn't let Stewart go did he? Didn't Stewart get an offer to more or less be a big part of his own racing company?

SmootSmack · 08-18-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I don't follow racing in the least, but Gibbs didn't let Stewart go did he? Didn't Stewart get an offer to more or less be a big part of his own racing company?

I don't mean letting him go like he fired him. I mean they spent months discussing Stewart's future with the team, and they discussed possible ownership opportunities within JGR for Stewart. Ultmately though the decisions was agreed upon that Stewart would go his own way, and Gibbs agreed to let him out of his contract a year early

birdz4gibbs · 08-19-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't mean letting him go like he fired him. I mean they spent months discussing Stewart's future with the team, and they discussed possible ownership opportunities within JGR for Stewart. Ultmately though the decisions was agreed upon that Stewart would go his own way, and Gibbs agreed to let him out of his contract a year early

right on smootsmack... it was hard on smoke to leave an organization he has spent his whole career with thus far and then decided to leave on his terms..
and gibbs did indeed agreed on the release of his final year....

it,s what he wanted to do be owner/driver..

birdz4gibbs · 08-19-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I don't follow racing in the least, but Gibbs didn't let Stewart go did he? Didn't Stewart get an offer to more or less be a big part of his own racing company?

yes 50% of hass cnc racing ..now stewart haas racing.
smoke decided to leave..my 2 cents worth on this deal is whoever did this should and will be shown the door looking for employment elsewhere...joe gibbs and JGR are too good to cheat unlike other organizations but i,d be lying if i said they don,t cheat..heck all of them cheat.....but JGR cheating it,s hard to put into words really but this is nascar afterall and sometimes you have to push the envelope...

wait and see and should be interesting...

FRPLG · 08-19-2008, 03:01 AM

Doesn't everyone "cheat" in NASCAR? I have always thought the "cheaters" were just the ones who have been caught? It's so institutional that it's almost not cheating to do it.

jsarno · 08-19-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Doesn't everyone "cheat" in NASCAR? I have always thought the "cheaters" were just the ones who have been caught? It's so institutional that it's almost not cheating to do it.

No, not everyone in NASCAR cheats. That's why they have MASSIVE inspections after races to catch people cheating.

All of you that feel it's ok to cheat, be sure to look your son or daughter in the eye and tell them if you're not cheating, you're not trying!

Hog1 · 08-19-2008, 05:22 PM

If your not cheatin', your not tryin'.....-Joe Gibbs

............I think not

08-17-2008, 10:00 PM	#1
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	NASCAR: JGR caught cheating Magnets under the gas pedals, not very wise. Joe will not tolerate this type of conduct on his prized race team. The guilty team members, crew chiefs/parties involved will pay a heavy price for there uncalled for actions. Yea, I know if your not cheating your not winning........crap Gibbs Racing Faces Penalties for Cheating - AOL Sports __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

08-18-2008, 02:07 PM	#2
Dlyne8r Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: W. Central Florida Posts: 577	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating Yeah, I don't think JG will take long in showing those responsible the door. This is nowhere near his M.O. However, if you were to poll all the teams in the garage I'd bet a months's salary that you would not find another team that doesn't stretch the rules...it's all part of the NASCAR culture. If this is true though, this was a little more than "stretching" the rules and there will be hell to pay. __________________ Charmed your drug addled candor knows no bounds

08-18-2008, 02:22 PM	#3
DarkKnight Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 206	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating If they got caught cheating it starts from the Top, so he is responsible, he shouldnt get a free ride cause he's JG..........please __________________ IN MADDEN: I AM LEGEND!!!

08-18-2008, 03:15 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating Im with DK -- can't Give Gibbs all the credit for the good and deflect all blame for the bad. I'm sure it's a mixture of both. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

08-18-2008, 03:27 PM	#5
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 42 Posts: 2,762	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating If this weren't Joe Gibbs, I'd say the owner had no idea what was going on. They aren't that involved in the day-to-day stuff. However, I know Joe Gibbs likes to be involved, so perhaps he knew -- but, I doubt it. It's a dirty thing to do, and I think JG is a man of character. I don't know him personally though, so maybe I'm wrong. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

08-18-2008, 03:35 PM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating It's more than likely a case of a couple of crew members doing what they should not have done without any prodding from or knowledge by Joe or JD. However, if one would like to put the blame on a higher up in the organization it should be JD long before Joe. Joe Gibbs is not nearly as involved with the inner workings in the garage to the extend that JD Gibbs is. Joe Gibbs involvement is more in terms of big picture/long term dealings (bringing in Kyle Busch, letting Tony Stewart go), sponsorships, marketing. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-18-2008, 03:41 PM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating I don't follow racing in the least, but Gibbs didn't let Stewart go did he? Didn't Stewart get an offer to more or less be a big part of his own racing company? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

08-19-2008, 03:01 AM	#13
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating Doesn't everyone "cheat" in NASCAR? I have always thought the "cheaters" were just the ones who have been caught? It's so institutional that it's almost not cheating to do it.

08-19-2008, 05:22 PM	#15
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: NASCAR: JGR caught cheating If your not cheatin', your not tryin'.....-Joe Gibbs ............I think not __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

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