Made this deal today

GTripp0012 · 07-24-2006, 09:21 PM

Traded:
RB-Willis McGahee
WR-Santana Moss
Dolphins DST

Received:
WR-Chad Johnson
RB-Curtis Martin
RB-Ron Dayne

Warpath Fantasy Football pundits, what say you?

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-25-2006, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Traded:
RB-Willis McGahee
WR-Santana Moss
Dolphins DST

Received:
WR-Chad Johnson
RB-Curtis Martin
RB-Ron Dayne

Warpath Fantasy Football pundits, what say you?

I personally would have kept the 3 u gave up for what u got. Johnson is a good fantasy wr pick up but martin and dayne r less predictable whereas the 3 u gave up have the ability to be top 5-10 in each of their positions.

FRPLG · 07-25-2006, 12:26 AM

I wouldn't have made the deal but it isn't bad. Comparing player for player: Johnson has to be a small plus over Moss at this point. McGahee is a potential plus over Martin but nothing there is a sure bet. And The dolphins are probably a decent plus over Dayne although Dayne has some "Dnever RB" potential. All in all I don't think it brought a ton of value but I don't think you lost a ton too. I like trades where I feel I am getting superior value but that also involves team needs (If Miami is your 3rd DST then they have no value to you so trading them brought good value).

steveo395 · 07-25-2006, 01:21 AM

you shouldnt have done that trade

GTripp0012 · 07-25-2006, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I wouldn't have made the deal but it isn't bad. Comparing player for player: Johnson has to be a small plus over Moss at this point. McGahee is a potential plus over Martin but nothing there is a sure bet. And The dolphins are probably a decent plus over Dayne although Dayne has some "Dnever RB" potential. All in all I don't think it brought a ton of value but I don't think you lost a ton too. I like trades where I feel I am getting superior value but that also involves team needs (If Miami is your 3rd DST then they have no value to you so trading them brought good value).

Santana was the only starter I dealt. I took a depth hit, but I think Chad goes for 1500 this year (compared to about 1050-1100 for Moss), so thats what im banking on.

That Guy · 07-25-2006, 05:23 AM

i don't like the deal.

martin is clearly not as good as mcgahee and chad is an upgrade over moss, so looking at the starter increase is nice, but now you'll be competing against better talent.

dolphins DST is a throwaway, no harm there.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-25-2006, 08:45 AM

who are your starting running backs? I keep reading that Dayne may actually have a good year, but I think that he'd have to play dallas every game for that to be the case.

jdlea · 07-25-2006, 09:28 AM

Personally, I don't know that I would have made the trade. I mean, Buffalo has no QB, so Willis is gonna have to carry the load. There's no question he's going to get his touches, however, I'm not convinced he'll have a great season. As for Martin (coming off of injury) and Dayne (not even sure of his role on the team) I think they could both have productive seasons, but I think I would have stuck with McGahee.

Now, As for the Moss for Chad Johnson aspect, I don't really see Chad as a huge upgrade. It seems like a pretty much apples for apples type deal. However, Chad has been more consistent, so I don't think this was in any way a bad move.

Overall, I might not have done it, but it's not my team.

FRPLG · 07-25-2006, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

who are your starting running backs? I keep reading that Dayne may actually have a good year, but I think that he'd have to play dallas every game for that to be the case.

Yeah I am very dubious of Dayne. Since Portis was traded they haven't had a breakout back. Their running game has still been solid but more based on using situational backs. I think their style begets good RB production but if you don't have a complete back then he isn't going to get huge numbers. Dayne is not a complete back. Unless injry forces him into playing lots of downs(he wouldn't normally play) I am betting he does well in TDs but has no better than average yardage.

GTripp0012 · 07-25-2006, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

who are your starting running backs? I keep reading that Dayne may actually have a good year, but I think that he'd have to play dallas every game for that to be the case.

My lineup looks like this now:

QB-Ben Roethlisberger
RB-Ronnie Brown
RB-Cadilliac Williams
WR-Chad Johnson
WR-Eddie Kennison
WR-Michael Clayton
TE-Heath Miller
K-Steve Gostkowski
DEF-Redskins

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-25-2006, 09:59 AM

I could see Dayne with a Stacey Mack-esque kind of year: 500yrds with 9tds

724Skinsfan · 07-25-2006, 10:29 AM

I don't think it's a lopsided trade but Chad Johnson has been very consistent in receptions, yards and TD's. McGahee performed pretty well (1200 yards, 5 TD's) last year considering. Don't count the Dolphin's D out if you think about them playing the Jets and Bills twice this year and the rest of their schedule includes Tennessee, Chicago and Green Bay.

They also play Houston but I actually think they will do fine offenively.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-25-2006, 11:13 AM

Yeah, I would've kept Santana. Dayne and Martin =

.

Monkeydad · 07-25-2006, 11:31 AM

I would not have made that.

Moss is just as reliable as CJ.

Curtis Martin is washed up. He's old and injury-prone. I owned him last year...that was a nightmare.

Of course, I also owned McGahee last year which was also a headache. He can't be THAT bad again though.

Ron Dayne could surprise, but he'll still be sharing time with Tatum Bell. The Broncos did manage to have 2 great fantasy RBs last year and should again this year...but the Dolphins D is good. Who's your D now?

You got good players in return (except maybe Martin)...but you gave away more than you received in my opinion.

07-24-2006, 09:21 PM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Made this deal today Traded: RB-Willis McGahee WR-Santana Moss Dolphins DST Received: WR-Chad Johnson RB-Curtis Martin RB-Ron Dayne Warpath Fantasy Football pundits, what say you? __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

07-25-2006, 12:26 AM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Made this deal today I wouldn't have made the deal but it isn't bad. Comparing player for player: Johnson has to be a small plus over Moss at this point. McGahee is a potential plus over Martin but nothing there is a sure bet. And The dolphins are probably a decent plus over Dayne although Dayne has some "Dnever RB" potential. All in all I don't think it brought a ton of value but I don't think you lost a ton too. I like trades where I feel I am getting superior value but that also involves team needs (If Miami is your 3rd DST then they have no value to you so trading them brought good value).

07-25-2006, 01:21 AM	#4
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Made this deal today you shouldnt have done that trade __________________

07-25-2006, 05:23 AM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 41 Posts: 17,553	Re: Made this deal today i don't like the deal. martin is clearly not as good as mcgahee and chad is an upgrade over moss, so looking at the starter increase is nice, but now you'll be competing against better talent. dolphins DST is a throwaway, no harm there.

07-25-2006, 08:45 AM	#7
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Made this deal today who are your starting running backs? I keep reading that Dayne may actually have a good year, but I think that he'd have to play dallas every game for that to be the case. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

07-25-2006, 09:28 AM	#8
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: Made this deal today Personally, I don't know that I would have made the trade. I mean, Buffalo has no QB, so Willis is gonna have to carry the load. There's no question he's going to get his touches, however, I'm not convinced he'll have a great season. As for Martin (coming off of injury) and Dayne (not even sure of his role on the team) I think they could both have productive seasons, but I think I would have stuck with McGahee. Now, As for the Moss for Chad Johnson aspect, I don't really see Chad as a huge upgrade. It seems like a pretty much apples for apples type deal. However, Chad has been more consistent, so I don't think this was in any way a bad move. Overall, I might not have done it, but it's not my team.

07-25-2006, 09:59 AM	#11
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Made this deal today I could see Dayne with a Stacey Mack-esque kind of year: 500yrds with 9tds __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

07-25-2006, 10:29 AM	#12
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Made this deal today I don't think it's a lopsided trade but Chad Johnson has been very consistent in receptions, yards and TD's. McGahee performed pretty well (1200 yards, 5 TD's) last year considering. Don't count the Dolphin's D out if you think about them playing the Jets and Bills twice this year and the rest of their schedule includes Tennessee, Chicago and Green Bay. They also play Houston but I actually think they will do fine offenively. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

07-25-2006, 11:13 AM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Made this deal today Yeah, I would've kept Santana. Dayne and Martin = . __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-25-2006, 11:31 AM	#14
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: Made this deal today I would not have made that. Moss is just as reliable as CJ. Curtis Martin is washed up. He's old and injury-prone. I owned him last year...that was a nightmare. Of course, I also owned McGahee last year which was also a headache. He can't be THAT bad again though. Ron Dayne could surprise, but he'll still be sharing time with Tatum Bell. The Broncos did manage to have 2 great fantasy RBs last year and should again this year...but the Dolphins D is good. Who's your D now? You got good players in return (except maybe Martin)...but you gave away more than you received in my opinion.