Kobe a Wizard

diehardskin2982 · 06-20-2007, 12:57 PM

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How would u like a Kobe for Arenas trade? Discuss...

FRPLG · 06-20-2007, 01:02 PM

Not sure Kobe would be any happier here. The comp players aren't much better than he has already.

diehardskin2982 · 06-20-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Not sure Kobe would be any happier here. The comp players aren't much better than he has already.

main difference; he'll be in the weak east

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 01:03 PM

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How would u like a Kobe for Arenas trade? Discuss...

wont happen str8 up. not a fair deal for the lakers.

FRPLG · 06-20-2007, 01:07 PM

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wont happen str8 up. not a fair deal for the lakers.

They don't have much leverage at this point.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 03:02 PM

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They don't have much leverage at this point.

yes they do because kobe is under contract

FRPLG · 06-20-2007, 03:38 PM

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yes they do because kobe is under contract

hahahahaha

are you kidding me?

Let's see. He basically skewered Bynum so bringing Kobe back at this point would:

- Probably create a seriously caustic locker room situation. Always good for a basketball team.
- Send Bynum off the deep end potentially stunting his development. Always good for one of your main building blocks.
- Put a guy who hates the team, and happens to be 75% of the production, on the floor. Wonder how that'll work out? I am sure Kobe will suck it up and put 100% effort into it. Yeah definitely.
- Let's see...most likely piss off a sizeable segment of the fan base who rightfully think Kobe is a major turd.

Yeah you're right. They definitely have all the leverage in the world.

They'll be lucky to get .50 on the dollar for him.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 03:43 PM

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hahahahaha

are you kidding me?

Let's see. He basically skewered Bynum so bringing Kobe back at this point would:

- Probably create a seriously caustic locker room situation. Always good for a basketball team.
- Send Bynum off the deep end potentially stunting his development. Always good for one of your main building blocks.
- Put a guy who hates the team, and happens to be 75% of the production, on the floor. Wonder how that'll work out? I am sure Kobe will suck it up and put 100% effort into it. Yeah definitely.
- Let's see...most likely piss off a sizeable segment of the fan base who rightfully think Kobe is a major turd.

Yeah you're right. They definitely have all the leverage in the world.

They'll be lucky to get .50 on the dollar for him.

they can still say we wont trade you

SmootSmack · 06-20-2007, 02:49 PM

Give me Arenas any day of the week. Arenas is a great player, but more importantly he's such a good ambassador for the team.

There's a Jamison for Shawn Marion rumor floating around as well. I hope that doesn't happen either.

jdlea · 06-20-2007, 03:40 PM

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Give me Arenas any day of the week. Arenas is a great player, but more importantly he's such a good ambassador for the team.

There's a Jamison for Shawn Marion rumor floating around as well. I hope that doesn't happen either.

What would be wrong with Jamison for Marion? I think Marion is a far superior player.

dmek25 · 06-20-2007, 03:52 PM

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What would be wrong with Jamison for Marion? I think Marion is a far superior player.

i don't know the salary cap part of it, but Marion is definitely the better player. whats sad about Bryant is, top 3 player in the league, and some rumors about him coming home to Philly. as a big sixer fan, I'm not sure i want him. too much baggage

SmootSmack · 06-20-2007, 04:42 PM

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What would be wrong with Jamison for Marion? I think Marion is a far superior player.

Because of the intangibles. The salaries match pretty evenly and talent-wise yes Marion is superior. But just about every NBA guy I've talked to says Jamison, a very talented player lest we forget, is the kind of guy every coach wants. He has a calming effect on teammates, is a great locker room leader, and a great communicator. A lot of people think he'll be a great coach himself one day. Plus we saw how the Wizards swooned for a spell when he went down during the season.

Marion, on the other hand, is a bit of a malcontent. He's just not getting the pub that Kobe is getting at the moment. Marion wants to be the man and he doesn't feel he's getting that love in Phoenix.

jdlea · 06-20-2007, 05:18 PM

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Because of the intangibles. The salaries match pretty evenly and talent-wise yes Marion is superior. But just about every NBA guy I've talked to says Jamison, a very talented player lest we forget, is the kind of guy every coach wants. He has a calming effect on teammates, is a great locker room leader, and a great communicator. A lot of people think he'll be a great coach himself one day. Plus we saw how the Wizards swooned for a spell when he went down during the season.

Marion, on the other hand, is a bit of a malcontent. He's just not getting the pub that Kobe is getting at the moment. Marion wants to be the man and he doesn't feel he's getting that love in Phoenix.

I considered this after I posted because I remembered that Jamison is the captain of the team. However, I am biased because Marion is one of my favorite players in the league.

As for Marion being a malcontent; I would agree that he is in Phoenix. I think he realizes how good he is and can be and is just frustrated that the Suns barely utilize him. I think it would be a mistake for the Suns to trade him for Jamison. I don't think they need another "character guy" I think they need someone like the Matrix who can score up to 25 a game barely touching the ball. I would prefer Marion because he could be much more productive here than Jamison has been and is also, IMO, a better rebounder and defender. While I'm not trying to undermine the importance of a guy like Jamison, I don't think he produces enough ON the floor to keep if you can get a guy like Marion for him.

Also, if we could get them to eat either Thomas or Haywood, that'd be nice, cause one of them has gotta go.

Finally, I think it's funny that this is an option because I've made this trade in every single basketball franchise I run with the Wizards on 2K7.

GhettoDogAllStars · 06-20-2007, 03:33 PM

Arenas has far more character and class than Kobe. Gilbert is about 4 years younger. Gilbert is cheaper. Also, I think Gil is the type of player who makes the players around him better -- Kobe is not. If the Wiz did this they would wreck the team's chemistry. It would be an extreme bonehead decision all the way around.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 03:37 PM

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Arenas has far more character and class than Kobe. Gilbert is about 4 years younger. Gilbert is cheaper. Also, I think Gil is the type of player who makes the players around him better -- Kobe is not. If the Wiz did this they would wreck the team's chemistry. It would be an extreme bonehead decision all they way around.

Kobe is the best player in the league period. Would you trust the scrubs that he has? At least Agent 0 has Butler (who the lakers had and traded for scrub brown) and Jamison.

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diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Kobe a Wizard? Atlanta Hawks, Andrea Bargnani, Andrew Bynum, Antonio Daniels, National Basketball Association, Boston Red Sox, Boston Celtics - CBS SportsLine.com How would u like a Kobe for Arenas trade? Discuss... __________________ That got ugly fast

06-20-2007, 01:02 PM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Kobe a Wizard Not sure Kobe would be any happier here. The comp players aren't much better than he has already.

06-20-2007, 02:49 PM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Kobe a Wizard Give me Arenas any day of the week. Arenas is a great player, but more importantly he's such a good ambassador for the team. There's a Jamison for Shawn Marion rumor floating around as well. I hope that doesn't happen either. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-20-2007, 03:33 PM	#14
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 42 Posts: 2,762	Re: Kobe a Wizard Arenas has far more character and class than Kobe. Gilbert is about 4 years younger. Gilbert is cheaper. Also, I think Gil is the type of player who makes the players around him better -- Kobe is not. If the Wiz did this they would wreck the team's chemistry. It would be an extreme bonehead decision all the way around. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

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