Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record?

jsarno · 07-26-2007, 03:24 PM

According to Bob Costas, Bonds admitted to the grand jury that he took steroids...albeit unknowingly. (yeah right) Bonds said he thought it was flaxseed oil.
Here is a link to a conversation with Costas and Patrick Arnold about the "clear".
Chemist: It's 'Clear' Bonds Used Steroids - Sports News Story - WMAQ | Chicago
How is it that these guys from BALCO are already serving time for "distribution", yet they didn't distribute to anyone since no one admitted to it other than Bonds doing it "unknowingly". (well, and Sheffield, but Bonds is the one going after the record right now...I think both Sheffield and Bonds should be taking out of baseball indefinitely "pending an investigation", they both admitted to taking it.)
Arnold also says that taking "clear" will get you in the zone, when Costas asked about a person's ability to hit a baseball, Arnold says it gets you "in the zone". So yes, it can help you hit a baseball.
All this time we were lead to believe that it just makes you stronger, it can't make you hit a baseball...well that is flat out untrue.

I am still amazed at how many people are embracing this disgrace of a human being.

SmootSmack · 07-26-2007, 03:42 PM

I was wondering when you were going to start a Bonds thread...again

jsarno · 07-26-2007, 04:30 PM

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I was wondering when you were going to start a Bonds thread...again

Well, I was going to let it go, but after watching that interview on ESPN NEWS, I am outraged that people are embracing him.
I think baseball is going to get a permanant black eye with this.

jdlea · 07-26-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, I was going to let it go, but after watching that interview on ESPN NEWS, I am outraged that people are embracing him.
I think baseball is going to get a permanant black eye with this.

I'm a huge baseball fan and I can't wait for him to break it. Baseball has embraced cheating throughout its history and now all of a sudden they want to act like it's an issue? Whenever they take down greaseballers/spitballers/ball scuffers out of the hall, I'll agree.

When you consider that a lot of pitchers have been caught using steroids, it makes it seem like Bonds is par for the course as far as baseball is concerned. Baseball deserves exactly what they're getting. I, personally, have no problem with Barry or anything he's done.

Wake me up when he tests positive.

SmootSmack · 07-26-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm a huge baseball fan and I can't wait for him to break it. Baseball has embraced cheating throughout its history and now all of a sudden they want to act like it's an issue? Whenever they take down greaseballers/spitballers/ball scuffers out of the hall, I'll agree.

When you consider that a lot of pitchers have been caught using steroids, it makes it seem like Bonds is par for the course as far as baseball is concerned. Baseball deserves exactly what they're getting. I, personally, have no problem with Barry or anything he's done.

Wake me up when he tests positive.

Preach on my brother! 100% agree

jsarno · 07-26-2007, 08:48 PM

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Preach on my brother! 100% agree

So it doesn't concern you that he actually admitted it? The fact that he says he thought it was flaxseed oil is beleivable for you?

MTK · 07-26-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm a huge baseball fan and I can't wait for him to break it. Baseball has embraced cheating throughout its history and now all of a sudden they want to act like it's an issue? Whenever they take down greaseballers/spitballers/ball scuffers out of the hall, I'll agree.

When you consider that a lot of pitchers have been caught using steroids, it makes it seem like Bonds is par for the course as far as baseball is concerned. Baseball deserves exactly what they're getting. I, personally, have no problem with Barry or anything he's done.

Wake me up when he tests positive.

Good point.

jsarno · 07-26-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I was wondering when you were going to start a Bonds thread...again

On a side note...the more I focus on Bonds and Vick, the less I focus on Stewart.
In all honesty, Stewart is a little boy scout compared to those two.

I guess being into statistics like I am, and growing up in Fenway Park with all that history, I am an advocate for the protection of baseball. It's history and records need to be protected. Bonds is spitting in the face of everyone that played before him, and everyone that ever cared about the game.
Hank Aaron should smack him in the face with a white glove after he breaks the record.

djnemo65 · 07-26-2007, 04:50 PM

Jsarno, are you suggesting that people shouldn't embrace Bonds' chase or that baseball should actually ban him from playing? I would agree with the former, however, the latter would be pretty impossible to do, at least right now.

jsarno · 07-26-2007, 04:55 PM

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Jsarno, are you suggesting that people shouldn't embrace Bonds' chase or that baseball should actually ban him from playing? I would agree with the former, however, the latter would be pretty impossible to do, at least right now.

Both actually.
Both seem to be impossible actually.

djnemo65 · 07-26-2007, 05:01 PM

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Both actually.
Both seem to be impossible actually.

Eh, I saw that show but I don't really think they represent the opinion of your average American. It seems like a pretty solid majority of people are against Bonds at this point.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-26-2007, 05:04 PM

Don't worry, A-Rod will shatter it before he's all done. I'm no Yankees fan, but he's putting up insane numbers.

Pujols has a shot as well.

MTK · 07-26-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Don't worry, A-Rod will shatter it before he's all done. I'm no Yankees fan, but he's putting up insane numbers.

Pujols has a shot as well.

I was just going to say the same thing about A-Rod. He's cruising past 500 with no sign of slowing down anytime soon.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-26-2007, 05:10 PM

I think Griffey Jr. could have had it had he stayed healthy.

MTK · 07-26-2007, 05:22 PM

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I think Griffey Jr. could have had it had he stayed healthy.

Yeah no doubt. He's still going to end up with some impressive numbers but you just have to wonder what could have been.

07-26-2007, 03:24 PM	#1
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 49 Posts: 9,534	Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record? According to Bob Costas, Bonds admitted to the grand jury that he took steroids...albeit unknowingly. (yeah right) Bonds said he thought it was flaxseed oil. Here is a link to a conversation with Costas and Patrick Arnold about the "clear". Chemist: It's 'Clear' Bonds Used Steroids - Sports News Story - WMAQ \| Chicago How is it that these guys from BALCO are already serving time for "distribution", yet they didn't distribute to anyone since no one admitted to it other than Bonds doing it "unknowingly". (well, and Sheffield, but Bonds is the one going after the record right now...I think both Sheffield and Bonds should be taking out of baseball indefinitely "pending an investigation", they both admitted to taking it.) Arnold also says that taking "clear" will get you in the zone, when Costas asked about a person's ability to hit a baseball, Arnold says it gets you "in the zone". So yes, it can help you hit a baseball. All this time we were lead to believe that it just makes you stronger, it can't make you hit a baseball...well that is flat out untrue. I am still amazed at how many people are embracing this disgrace of a human being. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

07-26-2007, 03:42 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record? I was wondering when you were going to start a Bonds thread...again __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record? Jsarno, are you suggesting that people shouldn't embrace Bonds' chase or that baseball should actually ban him from playing? I would agree with the former, however, the latter would be pretty impossible to do, at least right now.

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TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record? Don't worry, A-Rod will shatter it before he's all done. I'm no Yankees fan, but he's putting up insane numbers. Pujols has a shot as well. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-26-2007, 05:10 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record? I think Griffey Jr. could have had it had he stayed healthy. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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