2024 Commanders Off-Season Thread

[sdskinsfan2001]

My favorite time of the football year is between when our standard shitty season ends and the draft. It's here baby!

1. Who is the GM
2. Who is the HC
3. Does the new GM like Daniels or Maye more?

These are the questions.

[SFREDSKIN]

I would like to know the discussion between Harris and Joe Gibbs had in the box. I'm sure Harris will listen to Joe.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would like to know the discussion between Harris and Joe Gibbs had in the box. I'm sure Harris will listen to Joe.

Let's hope not. Joe Gibbs recommended Rivera. We all love Joe but he's been out of the game too long to be recommending a GM or coach.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Let's hope not. Joe Gibbs recommended Rivera. We all love Joe but he's been out of the game too long to be recommending a GM or coach.

It showed during his second stint

[Meks]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

It showed during his second stint

Dan forcing them to bring in AL Saunders fucked up our offense in Joe's second stint for sure.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Let's hope not. Joe Gibbs recommended Rivera. We all love Joe but he's been out of the game too long to be recommending a GM or coach.

Did J Gibbs recommend RR, or did RR seek out Joe prior to accepting the job?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Did J Gibbs recommend RR, or did RR seek out Joe prior to accepting the job?

According to local reports Gibbs encouraged Snyder to come down to Carolina and talk to Ron

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Let's hope not. Joe Gibbs recommended Rivera. We all love Joe but he's been out of the game too long to be recommending a GM or coach.

Football is not a 21st century sport, if you know football, you know football.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Football is not a 21st century sport, if you know football, you know football.

I love Coach Joe and thank him immensely for the success he had first time around and the respectability he had 2nd time around but this is 100% the wrong take. His 2nd time around he thought he could skip the whole "develop a young qb" thing by getting Brunell and that was one of his big downfalls. The game passed him by - offensive rules were getting made emphasizing pass interference/big plays/more scoring and the great teams of those days realized where the advantage was.

The NFL has been tilting the rules in favor of the offense for the last 20 years or so and Coach Joe thought he could still win with a veteran qb game manager and a strong running game. Those days are gone. Ball control will win games when you're playing quick-score offenses (good defense and strong running game will hold them in check) but it's not an effective strategy for winning 12 games and a title. The best teams have solid defenses and aggressive offenses that air it out (which is what the NFL wants).

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Football is not a 21st century sport, if you know football, you know football.

Yes, but knowing the best coordinators and gm's is different. If JG was giving advice on the character of guys, I would trust him implicitly, but knowing the best FO hires and innovative HC guys, not as much.

I am glad he is talking with JG, because I believe JG truly wants this franchise to thrive. But I hope he is getting advice from guys like the analytics dude he brought in.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Yes, but knowing the best coordinators and gm's is different. If JG was giving advice on the character of guys, I would trust him implicitly, but knowing the best FO hires and innovative HC guys, not as much.

I am glad he is talking with JG, because I believe JG truly wants this franchise to thrive. But I hope he is getting advice from guys like the analytics dude he brought in.

Exactly! I'm one who normally agrees with Chief. I don't know if I'd consult with Gibbs nowadays. Gibbs might be promoting or pushing for Belichek for all we know.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Yes, but knowing the best coordinators and gm's is different. If JG was giving advice on the character of guys, I would trust him implicitly, but knowing the best FO hires and innovative HC guys, not as much.

I am glad he is talking with JG, because I believe JG truly wants this franchise to thrive. But I hope he is getting advice from guys like the analytics dude he brought in.

Joe was given Vinny Cerrato as his GM and roster, not a good thing.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Football is not a 21st century sport, if you know football, you know football.

Sorry to say, you are more wrong about that than you realize. Analytics is so integrated with coaching today that football may as well have been invented in the 21st Century. Analytics is based on facts which have disproved many traditional assumptions about game management, player acquisitions and more. Furthermore, it is clear that the new owners intend to move forward with implementing a strong analytics role within the football operations side of the business.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Sorry to say, you are more wrong about that than you realize. Analytics is so integrated with coaching today that football may as well have been invented in the 21st Century. Analytics is based on facts which have disproved many traditional assumptions about game management, player acquisitions and more. Furthermore, it is clear that the new owners intend to move forward with implementing a strong analytics role within the football operations side of the business.

Not so much facts, but numbers certainly, what "facts" are gleaned from the numbers is dependant on how good the person doing the analysis is.

[jamf]

Too soon. I want to savor the Riverboat Retard firing this evening.