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Old 12-15-2009, 03:40 PM   #1
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Holmgren Agrees to Take Over Browns

Cleveland Browns, Mike Holmgren meeting about front-office position - ESPN
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this is good news, because i don't want the old man here
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:04 PM   #3
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I've been thinking for a while he'll be in Cleveland. But it could just be leverage against Seattle. I think Holmgren is a bit surprised he wasn't just welcomed back with open arms in Seattle
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I've been thinking for a while he'll be in Cleveland. But it could just be leverage against Seattle. I think Holmgren is a bit surprised he wasn't just welcomed back with open arms in Seattle
It's surprising that he might think that? They have not exactly been a powere in recent years
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I still think that if Zorn is retained that Holmgren would be the most suitable GM/mentor for the Redskins. He would have his boys Zorn and Sherm Lewis.
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I still think that if Zorn is retained that Holmgren would be the most suitable GM/mentor for the Redskins. He would have his boys Zorn and Sherm Lewis.
I wouldn't be against that. Right now I just don't know anymore. You're so effing lucky to see the Skins win on your home turf. Did you get to go down to the hole? I've been there a few times. The stadium was almost empty so I assume the game was blacked out in The Bay?

They gave Quiton Gainther an interview. He talked about how rough it was growing up in Richmond and what it meant to play in front of his family. Have things gotten better? The last time I was there Richmond was a DMZ, not just rough.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:20 PM   #7
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I wouldn't be against that. Right now I just don't know anymore. You're so effing lucky to see the Skins win on your home turf. Did you get to go down to the hole? I've been there a few times. The stadium was almost empty so I assume the game was blacked out in The Bay?

They gave Quinton Ganther an interview. He talked about how rough it was growing up in Richmond and what it meant to play in front of his family. Have things gotten better? The last time I was there Richmond was a DMZ, not just rough.
Didn't go to the game, game was blacked out. I listened on the radio and watched some on Justintv.com before it was disconnected. Certain areas of Richmond are just as bad or worse than SE DC, people getting shot, killed everyday.
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I still think that if Zorn is retained that Holmgren would be the most suitable GM/mentor for the Redskins. He would have his boys Zorn and Sherm Lewis.
I agree except I don't see Holmgren being the kind of person that will alow himself to be disrespected and pushed around. His persona just dosen't coinside with a personality like Snyder.

However, I'll go on record as saying I think they should retain both Zorn and Lewis. If I could find it in me to believe for some/any reason that Cerrato will be gone many other decisions would be easier.
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I agree except I don't see Holmgren being the kind of person that will alow himself to be disrespected and pushed around. His persona just dosen't coinside with a personality like Snyder.

However, I'll go on record as saying I think they should retain both Zorn and Lewis. If I could find it in me to believe for some/any reason that Cerrato will be gone many other decisions would be easier.
If Snyder wants to win he will have to give Holmgren the respect he gave Gibbs and I think he would.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:34 PM   #10
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I've been thinking for a while he'll be in Cleveland. But it could just be leverage against Seattle. I think Holmgren is a bit surprised he wasn't just welcomed back with open arms in Seattle
Not being welcomed back with open arms and not offered the GM spot. They offered him the president spot. I think he thought he would be a shoe in for the GM spot.

The Browns were looking for a GM. So I'm sure the talks will heat up since he rebuffed Seattle.
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Not being welcomed back with open arms and not offered the GM spot. They offered him the president spot. I think he thought he would be a shoe in for the GM spot.

The Browns were looking for a GM. So I'm sure the talks will heat up since he rebuffed Seattle.
Holmgren has signed with Cleveland already.

Mike Holmgren agrees to deal as Cleveland Browns president - ESPN
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:23 PM   #12
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Holmgren has signed with Cleveland already.

Mike Holmgren agrees to deal as Cleveland Browns president - ESPN
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:04 AM   #13
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What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?
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What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?
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What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?
I'm not sure anything really does other than it shows a willingness to go in another direction. Plus he is familiar with Zorn and the WCO and I think the feeling is he would stop some of Snyder's questionable personell decisions.
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